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Modern M14 Loadout

Hey, I usually stick to my vietnam loadout (m16a1, tiger stripe camo), and I've made the decision to go more modern. I have always loved the m14 and decided i want to create a m14 loadout. Where i play is all green, so woodland is the best camo to use. I think ill use woodland digital to get the marine look in. I just need some help in what i should get gear wise.
I was considering this:

http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/Diam.../dt-v-312w.htm

I can get BDU's through ebay or the army navy store, so that's covered.
But is the MOLLE pouches accurate for a m14/scout loadout? Any help is greatly appreciated.
I was also considering this:

http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/Diam...-hstr-502w.htm

I am really just lost here, so are these at all accurate to the actual loadout?
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Not accurate at all.

At least google "Marine M14" and look for pictures.


Those vests aren't made with the M14 in mind either, they're made for M4 or similar (5.56) mags not M14 or similar (7.62) mags.

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I don't even know what you're asking really but I'll tell you typically people stay away from gear in patterns. Because if you wear it with something else it'll look weird, Coyote brown or any sort of tan looks good and complements MARPAT.

As far as the M14 goes the USMC uses them in their DMR format. Google it. And a more "modern" M14 would be an EBR. And Italian is right, those mag pouches are for 5.56 magazines. An M14 magazine is bigger and wouldn't quite fit or it'd be very snug.

And yeah you're nowhere near accurate on this loadout if you're wanting to base it off the USMC.
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Diamond Tactical isn't great quality. If you're on a budget you can get some TMC gear from ebairsoft.com. Shipping is included in their prices and the gear is pretty good quality. Don't get cheap gear in Marpat, the coloring will be off and it will look crappy. Marines use CB gear with Marpat ACU's (kinda, their ACU's have no velcro) or OD/Tan Flight Suits. If you go the Pantac route get Khaki as their CB is more dark chocolate than CB. Flyye CB is very close to EI CB so if you get Flyye (shootercbgear.com or ehobbyasia.com) go CB.

The vests used that I know of are the Maritime and Land Ciras, MBSS, and the RRV. If you get an RRV, they use a MBSS back, not the RRV back designed for it.

You will want good Desert Combat boots and gloves (operator's choice. Many kinds. ie. Blackhawk SOLAG, Oakley Si Assault, Hatch gloves etc...). They utilize a LWH, in the case of Force Recon Marines they are seen with a MICH 2000 occasionally. Get it in Tan as Marpat covers will be incorrect. The kind they use have a hole in them designed for a specific mount to be used, these are VERY expensive. Typically they use Oakley SI goggles or ESS NVG's.

This is just a brief explanation. Any questions feel free to ask. Honestly though, put effort into research as this what you want is soooo completely incorrect for a Marine Loadout.

Here are two guides to Marine impressions to give you a better idea of what they use: http://www.airsoftsociety.com/forums...oadouts-12436/

(This is better) http://miairsoft.proboards.com/index...y&thread=35673
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It's kind of disgusting to look at. Like a big pile of poop. Nothing close to EI CB or other real steel gear.

Also OP, if you go to a Surplus store, make sure you get actual Marpat. It has a horizontal orientation not vertical like the similar Navy Type II and III. Color is also slightly off. Here's a reference picture. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MARPAT_comparison.PNG
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The Marines use MCCUU's, the pattern is MARPAT. You can get that from almost any surplus store. You will also want to pick up gear in coyote brown since that is the color they use. If you want a standard rifleman kit im pretty sure you can easily find that on google.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sniper_rifle.jpg

M14 in use in Fallujah.

Easy as cake 'modern' loadout without the need for a ton of extra 'crap'. 3 color deserts and a woodland interceptor. If you want to roll green, that is easy also.

Good to go.
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The vests used that I know of are the Maritime and Land Ciras, MBSS, and the RRV. If you get an RRV, they use a MBSS back, not the RRV back designed for it.
To further explain this.

None of the above is standard issue to Marine's. From an explanation I received my buddy, and me filling in based on what you have posted...

That is all approved wear above, but you need to buy it yourself. A lot of guys used to do that because it was lighter than what the Marines issued. Now that the Marines went to a lighter vest, a lot of guys are sticking with it rather than buying their own.

What Marines used during the time of the many other load outs was the Spartan II system, which is what I currently run for my airsoft load out. This is also the primary vest that they all wore in Battle:LA. It's big, bulky, and if you don't remove all the extra stuff, EXTREMELY hard to move in.
This is a commercialized Spartan II system
http://www.optactical.com/taapgrsp2iba.html
They're not really that round. It's a VERY bad picture. Problem is, you can't Google it without Halo stuff popping up all the time, because apparently, they were called Spartan II's in Halo:Reach (off topic).

They switched to a Spartan-L system which isn't the real name, but I can't remember it right now, which also makes it hard to bring up pictures. But if anyone can help...

These look a lot like this...
http://www.evike.com/product_info.ph...ducts_id=28443

That might even be a knock off of it, but this is all off of memory as it's been about 5 months since I've seen any pictures of the Spartan Light creation so I could be wrong.
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Uh... But those ARE issued kit. It's part of the FSBE2 kit.

Unless you're talking about the regular grunts, then they're getting other stuff.
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Yea, I was talking about regular grunts, but come to think of it, that was pretty dumb because they wouldn't be the one's using M-14s
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Marines use CB gear with Marpat ACU's (kinda, their ACU's have no velcro) or OD/Tan Flight Suits.
MARPAT Army Combat Uniforms?

The current Marine battledress uniform is called the MCCUU, which if memory serves right stands for "Marine Corp Combat Utility Uniform." The Marine Corp, in response to the hot climate of Iraq, has also issued FROG (Fire Resistant Organizational Gear) clothing. This stuff isn't cheap, but there are some replicas our there. Civilians are NOT authorized to have a real MCCUU, so watch what you buy. As long as it doesn't have the EGA, you're good.

As for gear, I know that the USMC issues Coyote Brown gear to the Marines in the field. They use this for both the Woodland and Arid uniform. As for an M14 loadout, I can't help much there other than make sure that you buy 7.62/universal magazine pouches and not 5.56 magazine pouches.

For your M14, the current variant of the M14 the Marine Corp issues is the M39 EMR (Yes, Battlefield is right). This, in turn, resembles the Mk. 14 EBR issued by the Army. Picture:



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Marines using ACU, lol. Anyways, there is a lot of good stuff in this, you may have to change the pouches because you have are using an m14.
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Yeah I didn't know what the cut is called although it is similar to ACU cut. I just really didn't want him to get bdu cut because MARPAT is a newer camo that never would be used in that cut. I don't believe Mccuu is sold comercially because of what panda said. This leaves him with acu and bdu as the main cuts to find it in and acu cut is the closer cut of the two.

Most of the stuff I talked about is referring to force recon as m14's aren't a normal grunt's
weapon.

Not sure how I forgot about FROG suits. My bad.
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i am starting one too. i will be using my teams colors, multicam and black top), with my ranger green m4 chest rig, you can fit one m14 mag in each m4 mag pouch.
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Thanks guys, sorry for being completely useless haha. So i wont be getting this for a little while, but for the main idea, MARPAT BDU's, Coyote gear with 7.62 pouches, and desert boots? and would a coyote drop leg be good for my WE 1911?
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If you want to be accurate, you'll want a Safariland 6004 or a repro of it. Though theres really no reason to not want one. Any Kydex holster will be loads better than a 'soft' one.
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Are you committing to a fr load out? If so a M9 would be more accurate. 1911s are very rarely seen. Italian is correct on saying a safari land 6004 is most accurate. If it's too expensive buy one used. I don't recommend a repro as used will be better quality at the same price (may be a bit of wear but it will last longer than a cheap abs repro). On MiA a guy is selling his 1911 safari land 6004 for $70. I'd look into that or eBay.
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Money isnt really an issue to me, i understand that if you want the best, you have to pay the price so yeah haha. I know M9's are the usual side for USMC but I've grown fond of my 1911 so for now I think ill stick with it. Thanks for the help with the safari land.
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(may be a bit of wear but it will last longer than a cheap abs repro).
I would recommend going used simply because most of their stuff is so worn from training before they go into battle, it would be more accurate. Unless you just want to beat the crap out of a new one before you field it.

Everything looks better used anyway.
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Oh by the way, is pantac 1000D good stuff?
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Pantac meets military specs (construction, stitch, material is US sourced etc) with some slight differences. Color, buckles and sizing.
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