Airsoft Ohio Forums  

Go Back   Home > Airsoft Ohio Forums > Main > Off Topic Forums

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 2 votes, 4.50 average. Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-23-2007, 02:59 PM
India's Avatar
India India is offline
Masakatsu Agatsu
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Columbus
Posts: 1,010
Blog Entries: 1
India is a Private First ClassIndia is a Private First Class
iTrader: (1)
For Your Consideration: Internet Anonymity

This isn't as big a deal for AO since a lot of us know each other, or at least know someone who knows us, but I've long thought anonymity is the biggest problem with the net. So on that note, here's an article that you may, or may not, find interesting.



Internet Anonymity Is as Destructive as Internet Porn
By Dennis Prager
Tuesday, October 23, 2007

Whenever people lament aspects of the Internet, they are most likely to lament the net's ubiquity of pornography. Only God knows, for example, how many kids, searching for some government information, typed in "whitehouse.com" only to be greeted by pornographic images (happily, the website changed hands in 2004). It is almost impossible to completely avoid such imagery even with filtering programs.

But there is something at least as awful -- and arguably more destructive -- that permeates the Internet: the lies, vitriol, obscenities and ad hominem attacks made by anonymous individuals on almost every website that deals with public issues.

Sexual images and prose for the purpose of sexual titillation are not new. But the ability of anyone in society to debase public discourse is new. Until the Internet, in the public's best known venue for self-expression -- letters to the editor published in newspapers and magazines -- people either expressed themselves in a civilized manner or they were not published. And overwhelmingly, even those letters that were not published were written in a respectful manner because the letter-writers had to reveal their real names and their addresses (though only names and cities were published).

Being identifiable breeds responsibility; anonymity breeds irresponsibility.

That is why people -- even generally decent people -- tend to act so much less morally when in a crowd (the crowd renders them anonymous). That is why people tend to act more decently when they walk around with their names printed on a nametag. That is why people act more rudely when in their cars -- they cannot be identified as they could outside of their car. There is no question but that most people would write very different entries on the Internet if their names were printed alongside their submission.

E-mail provides another example. It is the very rare individual who sends a hate-filled, obscenity-laced e-mail that includes his name. As the recipient of such e-mails, I know firsthand how rarely people identify themselves when sending hate-filled mail. It is so rare, in fact, that I usually respond to hate mail that includes the writer's name just to commend him for attaching his name to something so embarrassing.

The Internet practice of giving everyone the ability to express himself anonymously for millions to read has debased public discourse. Cursing, ad hominem attacks and/or the utter absence of logic characterize a large percentage of many websites' "comments" sections. And because people tend to do what society says it is OK to do, many people, especially younger people, are coming to view such primitive forms of self-expression as acceptable.

Some might argue that anonymity enables people to more freely express their thoughts. But this is not true. Anonymity only enables people to more freely express their feelings. Anonymity values feelings over thought, and immediate expression over thoughtful reflection.

There is not one good reason for any website, left or right, or non-political, to allow people to avoid identifying themselves. Anyone interested in serious political discourse, or in merely lowering the hate levels in our country, should welcome the banning of anonymous postings.

It would be interesting to find out how many websites continue to encourage anonymous postings. Presumably, they would pay some financial price by insisting on posters identifying themselves. I don't know why, and I don't know how big a price that would be, but it is hard to imagine that it is higher than the price society pays when hate, anger and irrationality become the normal way of citizens expressing themselves. And even from the websites' own perspectives this policy is probably self-defeating. I doubt I am alone in reading fewer and fewer comments sections because of the low level of so many of the postings. Just as bad money chases away good money, moronic postings chase away intelligent ones. I have come to the point where I even read fewer comments posted about my own columns.

Websites should insist on listing names and cities of those who post comments, just as newspapers and magazines do.

The irresponsible, the angry, the obscene and the dumb have virtually taken over many Internet dialogues. But there is an easy fix, and websites owe it to society to use it. Just ban anonymous postings.
__________________
KD8TBN

Last edited by India; 10-23-2007 at 03:00 PM. Reason: proofread
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-23-2007, 03:28 PM
Spades's Avatar
Spades Spades is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: columbus
Posts: 428
Spades is a Private First Class
Send a message via AIM to Spades
iTrader: (9)
hmm.. i never really thought of things like this, but it makes a lot of sense. you feel much more comfortable posting something completely inappropriate when you know you can't be held liable for it. it really does bread irresponsibility when you know you can't be blamed. it's all about the psychology of it! the only thing is, how can you change the ability to be anonymous?
__________________


The original, Spades...
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-23-2007, 05:15 PM
Loki's Avatar
Loki Loki is offline
Ban Hammer (Retired)
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,279
Blog Entries: 5
Loki is a SpecialistLoki is a SpecialistLoki is a Specialist
iTrader: (21)
While I tend to agree with the article generally speaking, I believe that anonymity has its place on the net. I don't believe that anonymity itself is a plague, rather, people not generally being moral is what causes this. If you were a truly moral or respectable person, you wouldn't make posts like that, whether you are anonymous or not. People that hide behind anonymity are the same people that would murder others had there not been a law against it.

Banning anonymity on the internet is a slippery slope. You ban it there, the next thing you know, we'll all have our names printed on our cars, and have barcodes tatooed on is. Sure, this is obviously an extreme, but given enough time, with the above mentioned mentality, it will get there eventually.

If you really want to change the internet for the better, keep banning those responsable. I remember when I was growing up hearing about being "K-lined" which meant that you were permanently banned from the internet (I don't know if this is true one way or another, it could simply be an urban legend). Anonymity isn't the cause of the problem, it's simply a lack of morality.

Now, having read this, how would people in China, or North Korea, or people from any of the other oppressive governments fare if this law were in effect? They would be ****ED. They would have no outlet to tell others of what is going on, and nothing would ever change in their country. It could happen here too, don't get sucked into this line of thinking. Nothing good can come of it.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-23-2007, 05:20 PM
Oscar's Avatar
Oscar Oscar is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Delaware, OH
Posts: 366
Blog Entries: 1
Oscar is a Private First Class
iTrader: (0)
The solution starts with the administrators running the websites (bulletin boards, chat rooms, etc.). Require a person to identify themselves. Moderate posts to weed out those causing dissent.

Sad but true, society has taken a turn for the worst with immorality being depicted on TV and in movies. People just don't have the values they used to. I blame it on the media and I also blame it on people that get caught up in the rat race (materialism, lack of parenting, selfishness, etc.) and only care about themselves and what they have to say.

You can't stop people from making fools of themselves, but you can do things to minimize the effect it has on a website with simple restrictions.

I value the internet, even it's anonymity, despite the problems. There are plenty of mature people out there that eclipse the cowards that hide behind anonymous postings.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-23-2007, 06:51 PM
DemonicUnicorn2's Avatar
DemonicUnicorn2 DemonicUnicorn2 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Akron
Posts: 877
DemonicUnicorn2 is a Private
iTrader: (9)
I agree with Loki and Oscar. I read this and couldn't help but think that the writer had to be:
A) Quite religious
B) Republican
C) Widely heard through some sort of media

After I googled his name, they were all right. This article reeks of pro-net neutrality targeted at soccer moms and concerned parents who probably make up most of his audience. It's all sugar coated, and to the point with the subliminal message of "the internet needs governing... to protect the children." Just re-read the first paragraph and last paragraph.

They guy makes does make a point though. People need to act more responsibly and that they need to realize that even though it may not be traced back to you directly it can, and sometimes does, reflect on your group. By your group I mean your country, your race, your sex, your state, your airsoft forum and so on.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-23-2007, 07:13 PM
<Maverick>'s Avatar
<Maverick> <Maverick> is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: CLASSIFIED
Posts: 507
<Maverick> is a Private
iTrader: (4)
thats funny, i thought democrats were the "let's censor everything" type. just look at the recent thing with all the democratic presidential candidates and rush limbaugh...lol. there goes america.
__________________


www.TeamShadowLegion.com
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-23-2007, 07:14 PM
Loki's Avatar
Loki Loki is offline
Ban Hammer (Retired)
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,279
Blog Entries: 5
Loki is a SpecialistLoki is a SpecialistLoki is a Specialist
iTrader: (21)
Oh come on, don't turn this into a political debate, for the love of god.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-23-2007, 07:41 PM
India's Avatar
India India is offline
Masakatsu Agatsu
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Columbus
Posts: 1,010
Blog Entries: 1
India is a Private First ClassIndia is a Private First Class
iTrader: (1)
Yes please. I'll close my own thread if it continues.
__________________
KD8TBN
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-23-2007, 08:01 PM
<Maverick>'s Avatar
<Maverick> <Maverick> is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: CLASSIFIED
Posts: 507
<Maverick> is a Private
iTrader: (4)
no, no...sorry. i was just trying to be funny.
__________________


www.TeamShadowLegion.com
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-24-2007, 03:47 PM
FerretFace's Avatar
FerretFace FerretFace is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 221
FerretFace is a Private
Send a message via AIM to FerretFace
iTrader: (0)
Anonymity is precious. It is what the internet is based on. Anyone can basically say anything, and they don't get the blame (in the non-virtual world). I highly doubt that if you knew who someone was, they would be a lot less liberal. And once again, the internet is about freedom. (I could elborate on this, but it would be a continous cycle leading back to anonymity).

We have taken advantage of being able to say whatever you want, and not take the blame and no one knowing it was you. We now are becoming very dissolute with they way we act on the internet. No longer can a noob go onto a forum and ask "IS ThIs a gud gnu?" (provided with a gigantic picture of the gun) without being bombarded with USE THE SEARCH BUTTON STUPID NOOB! Ban. Many sites contain obscenities. Don't even get me started about the porn indstry on the web. This all leads back to our loss of our values not only on te web but in real life.

Our values throughout the whole world have been lost. Everyone's values differ unless you are a brainwashed cultist. Believe it or not, some people have different morals that the general public (sarcasm). And of course we are going to have different values, because we are all different. To sum it up, it's pretty much part of human nature.

I got very off topic, but it pretty much wraps it up.
__________________
OH HAI
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-24-2007, 04:44 PM
India's Avatar
India India is offline
Masakatsu Agatsu
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Columbus
Posts: 1,010
Blog Entries: 1
India is a Private First ClassIndia is a Private First Class
iTrader: (1)
If anonymity is precious, then should I be able to write TheBanker on a loan application, or a marriage certificate? What if you're buying an AEG from me, but I refuse to give you any way of contacting me after the sale? You would be suspicious naturally, but I'm just protecting my precious anonymity, right?

The biggest difference between children and adults (mental adults, not legal adults) is that adults accept that they are accountable for their actions. The foundation of all human interaction is accountability, and anonymity destroys that accountability, so in my eyes it's bad...from a philosophical standpoint (government mandates are a whole other discussion Loki). There will always be some legitimate reasons for anonymity, and ways to secure it, but systemic unaccountability would destroy society. In the absence of a reason, accountability should always be favored over anonymity. The question I ask myself is whether the Internet constitutes systemic anonymity or justified anonymity.
__________________
KD8TBN

Last edited by India; 10-24-2007 at 04:47 PM. Reason: proofread
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-24-2007, 05:10 PM
Loki's Avatar
Loki Loki is offline
Ban Hammer (Retired)
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 1,279
Blog Entries: 5
Loki is a SpecialistLoki is a SpecialistLoki is a Specialist
iTrader: (21)
In this case, the only thing being "harmed" are people's sensabilities, and people getting "annoyed". I've seen more porn in movies released from Hollywood that porn than I've randomly found on the net (IE, not specifically looking for it).

In this case I don't believe anonymity causes harm to anyone. I DO agree with you that people need to be held accountable, but I don't think this is the way to do it.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-24-2007, 11:40 PM
Mr. Black's Avatar
Mr. Black Mr. Black is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 285
Mr. Black is a Private
Send a message via ICQ to Mr. Black
iTrader: (2)
Here is my question. Are people more responsible on line because they can be held accountable for their actions, or because they feel accountable for their actions?

Lets explore this word Accountability for a moment. To be held accountable for your actions people must know who you are. Now the question becomes, to what extent is it that people must "know" me in order to be held accountable. (think about this) The next question becomes, is it necessary to be held accountable for your actions in order to achieve accountability? What information about me do I really have to give out to "feel" accountable for my actions. I think that the name on the email example was a good one. I don't feel like it poses a big security issue to use your real name, in fact I don't think that anyone could really hold me truly accountable for my actions here if I did use my real name. However, because our identities are so attached to our names, its use may create a personal sense of accountability.
The point here being that we may not need to give out a bunch of personal information. All we may need to do is give out just enough to "feel" accountable for our words.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-25-2007, 05:40 AM
India's Avatar
India India is offline
Masakatsu Agatsu
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Columbus
Posts: 1,010
Blog Entries: 1
India is a Private First ClassIndia is a Private First Class
iTrader: (1)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki View Post
I DO agree with you that people need to be held accountable, but I don't think this is the way to do it.
Hmm...I might agree with that (still thinking about it).
__________________
KD8TBN
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-25-2007, 05:42 AM
India's Avatar
India India is offline
Masakatsu Agatsu
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Columbus
Posts: 1,010
Blog Entries: 1
India is a Private First ClassIndia is a Private First Class
iTrader: (1)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Black View Post
All we may need to do is give out just enough to "feel" accountable for our words.
So you're saying the illusion of accountability is enough to scare people into behaving?
__________________
KD8TBN
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 10-25-2007, 12:08 PM
AlphaSix AlphaSix is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Fort Knox, KY
Posts: 181
AlphaSix is a Private First Class
iTrader: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Black View Post
The point here being that we may not need to give out a bunch of personal information. All we may need to do is give out just enough to "feel" accountable for our words.
Amen..

Then again, it's all a matter of context. If you want to remain anonymous and ask for advice of some sort (not airsoft stuff, I mean generally speaking as far as internet use.) or to make a comment without attaching it to your name, as long as it's done with common sense, and respecting others, then I don't have a problem with anonymity. I don't need to know your name to have an intelligent conversation with you, but if I know you, you are less likely to say some things.

This is good and bad, good because sometimes a healthy dose of reality without the burden of hurting someone's feelings is good, but bad because the internet has bred legions of IBAS kiddies (Internet bad@$$ syndrome) that run around saying things they'd never dare say to a person's face for fear of getting their lunch money stole once again

It's also good to keep in mind that anonymity isn't as simple as most people may think it is on the net. If cross a certain line and that anonymity disappears.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 10-25-2007, 01:21 PM
Duo Chan's Avatar
Duo Chan Duo Chan is offline
The Sniper
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Youngstown
Posts: 540
Blog Entries: 1
Duo Chan is a Private First Class
Send a message via AIM to Duo Chan Send a message via MSN to Duo Chan Send a message via Yahoo to Duo Chan
iTrader: (2)
Not enough time for me to write up an essay of a post, but I see something in here that differently needs pointed out.

Internet Anonymity is more then just a cover to hide behind while submitting improper content to the internet. It is also a safety mechanism that can not be done away with. For example, John Doe writes information on the internet about how the KKK is an evil organization, and is forced to add his real name, and maybe a small amount of personal information. KKK members see this, and begin to run through his name and information. They find him, and burn down his house. I know many people who are capable of finding you, with JUST your full name and access to the internet. This happens even with internet anonymity, but on a much smaller scale.

In a nut shell, look at what happens to teen girls who remove the mask of their anonymity in a chat room to a predator. Now imagine that all over the internet, on every site, against all of us.
__________________
Member of the 08th Expeditionary Unit.

http://google.com
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 10-25-2007, 01:59 PM
V_Dub's Avatar
V_Dub V_Dub is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: somewhere near fayetteville NC
Posts: 665
V_Dub is a Private
Send a message via ICQ to V_Dub Send a message via AIM to V_Dub Send a message via Yahoo to V_Dub
iTrader: (20)
internet anonymity is also a useful tool for those people where disclosure might lead to negative ramifications. for example: the great firewall of china. To discuss any type of democracy or freedom or forbidden subjects (such as the falun gong) can result in interrogation or possible jail time. China has even gone as far as trying to require internet cafes to record the names and ID numbers of anyone that uses a computer so they can be tracked down later.

Of course, if you were to have a forced disclosure policy on t3h 1nt4rw3b5 it would fail miserably, simply because people will not like to be forced to do something. example: the great firewall of china. People in china are constantly coming up with new and ingenious ways of circumventing the government censorship of the net.
__________________



Your rank is directly correlated to how many beers I drink to deal with you.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 10-25-2007, 02:27 PM
India's Avatar
India India is offline
Masakatsu Agatsu
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Columbus
Posts: 1,010
Blog Entries: 1
India is a Private First ClassIndia is a Private First Class
iTrader: (1)
I am a member of the martial arts forum E-budo, and one of the rules is that you have to put your real name in each post (usually in the signature section). I haven't seen any problems, and the discussion is very civil.
__________________
KD8TBN
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 10-25-2007, 02:40 PM
Iceman's Avatar
Iceman Iceman is offline
Laying the smack down on mass hysteria
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Chicago
Posts: 219
Iceman is a Private
iTrader: (0)
Gentlemen, I have been on the fence about this issue for quite some time. Having pretty much grown up (internetwise and in regards to discussion boards) with AO, I can see both sides of the issue.

Many of you that know me, I will tell you what is on my mind 100% of the time. This may get me in trouble from time to time, however I feel that as adults, all problems can be sorted out through intelligent and honest discussion. I will not say anything on a board that I am not will to say to anyone's face. Thus, this prevents me from saying such outlandish things as "I will so kick your butt" or "I am the supperist sniper that ever did live because I got lessons from Carlos Hathcock" on a board. I have, and will continue, to interject sanity into a discussion by calling one person or another a moron, or an idiot. However, I have never done this without providing reasons as to why they are wrong.

I think the root of this issue is that ignorance is bleeding through and people feel that since they have no real face, they do not have to follow logical rules and morals setup by our society. I am not talking about morals about sex, politics, or anything of that nature. Rather I am talking about morals in regards to how people should treat other people and how two adults should interact and discuss an issue or problem. Maybe I am old fashioned, but some of the gammer and spelling I have seen lately and in the past has been terrible. Now, I am not the best speller in the world, but you do not see "text or net speak". If I have a hard time reading your post because it is all in caps, misspelled, or you make an assertion without any sort of proof/reasoning to back it up, I have a hard time taking you seriously. And I think that is the root of the problem. When people see a board/ forum where people do not use proper grammer, see blatent disrespect, and see people acting like children, they will logically act as such. This is why it is so important to act like adults and converse as such on these boards.
__________________
From OP BF3: Welcome to the 6mm Big Gay Boat Ride
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 10-25-2007, 03:41 PM
Texx's Avatar
Texx Texx is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: The Wild West
Posts: 4,115
Blog Entries: 2
Texx is a SpecialistTexx is a SpecialistTexx is a Specialist
Send a message via AIM to Texx Send a message via Yahoo to Texx
iTrader: (21)
I believe in honesty, but at the same time, Naive Honesty on the Internet can leave you at risk of being taken advantage of.

AO is visible to everyone on the net. This means that personal information you place on the forums could possibly be found using a google search.

It is very easy for you to have your identity stolen. Most people simply need your first and last name and birth date.

There is safety in anonymity on the net.
__________________
...The universe is a big place. We can't be alone on this tiny blue planet - its own solar system surrounded by billions of solar systems, in a galaxy surrounded by a billion galaxies, infinite combinations of matter and energy with infinite possibilities, and they picked Ben Affleck to play Batman...
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 10-25-2007, 03:49 PM
India's Avatar
India India is offline
Masakatsu Agatsu
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Columbus
Posts: 1,010
Blog Entries: 1
India is a Private First ClassIndia is a Private First Class
iTrader: (1)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texx View Post
It is very easy for you to have your identity stolen. Most people simply need your first and last name and birth date.

There is safety in anonymity on the net.
I can get someone's first and last name any number of ways outside of the net, and yet there's no call for systemic anonymity in the physical world. In the physical world, anonymity is used on a case-by-case basis. But I suppose you could say that, because of the vast audience on the net, relative to the physical world, the risks of having personal information misused rise to such a level that anonymity is an acceptable norm. I'd prefer to call it a necessary evil myself, but tomAYto tomAHto.
__________________
KD8TBN
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 10-25-2007, 05:14 PM
Texx's Avatar
Texx Texx is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: The Wild West
Posts: 4,115
Blog Entries: 2
Texx is a SpecialistTexx is a SpecialistTexx is a Specialist
Send a message via AIM to Texx Send a message via Yahoo to Texx
iTrader: (21)
You can have your personal information stolen by someone digging through your garbage. You can have your credit destroyed by the kid down at the corner convenience store who ran your card to pay for gas. You can have someone call you and steal your bank account information over the phone. Yes there are real everyday threats that can ruin you.

But the average Pakistani is not going to have the opportunity to steal your credit card number or banking account, because he is not going to be as likely to travel over here and dig through the dumpster to get it.

What the internet provides is an opportunity for every dishonest person in the world with a computer and internet connection to attempt to steal everything you have. And he can do that much easier by knowing your first and last name, email address, and where you live. Eventually he will have the opportunity to craft an email that you will receive that looks 100% like that your bank sends you that will allow him to get you login information.

Yes, there are systems out there that can catch this stuff. But not giving the bad guys the opportunity to do it by freely displaying your personal information is going to make it that much harder for him to do it. Better yet, anonymity will keep you off his radar to begin with.

Anonymity offers safety and danger. Unfortunately, alot of the danger is avoidable with simple education. I will educate all of you for $45 each, paypal accepted. And it will result in larger breasts, a healthy colon, cheaper Microsoft Plus, a better sex life, curing cancer in Jerry's Kid, and help the Nigerian Minister of Banking recover 45 million dollars.
__________________
...The universe is a big place. We can't be alone on this tiny blue planet - its own solar system surrounded by billions of solar systems, in a galaxy surrounded by a billion galaxies, infinite combinations of matter and energy with infinite possibilities, and they picked Ben Affleck to play Batman...
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 10-26-2007, 02:20 AM
Mr. Black's Avatar
Mr. Black Mr. Black is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 285
Mr. Black is a Private
Send a message via ICQ to Mr. Black
iTrader: (2)
The question has now become, Who must know me to make accountable? It could be safer for everyone if your personal name and information was only seen by the moderators and not the public at large. However, is this enough to make people feel accountable for their actions. I don't believe that this in itself would give a person that connection needed to feel accountable. The fear of repercussion by some higher power does not seem like enough incentive in the case of an online community. The wost that we can do is ban them. I think that it really comes down to people being more personally connected to their online selves. Wearing a mask allows a person to act in ways that they would not usually, this is because they realize that the way that they are being seen by others has no connection to who they actual might be as an individual. When I say "give the feeling of accountability" I mean that people must feel a personal connection from whom they are on the net, to their actual identity as a person. In some ways connection to ones online identity can be developed over time. Such as my call sign, Mr. Black. I feel more of a connection to this name in this community of people than my real name. However this does not help a newcomer to the community. How do we make a new member of the community feel personally connected enough to his online persona to act in a way that represents his actual self.

Last edited by Mr. Black; 10-26-2007 at 02:23 AM. Reason: proof read
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 10-26-2007, 12:05 PM
Iceman's Avatar
Iceman Iceman is offline
Laying the smack down on mass hysteria
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Chicago
Posts: 219
Iceman is a Private
iTrader: (0)
Perhaps I am spitballing a little, but, I have always felt that we (and by we I mean the people that have been in the game for a while and are somewhat known entities) need to set a higher standard for online communication on this board. I think that means that we also need to hold people accountiable to those standards. For example, no net/text speak, proper grammer, proper puncuation, and just common decency exteneded to our common man.

Think of this as an online extension of the broken window's theory. If a new person see's a board with disrepect for the rules, net speak, and terrible english everywhere, they will act as such. It's kind of like a "when in rome..." However, if we elevate ourselves, others will be more likely to do so. And once we do, we are in a better position to give out advice and usher in a new golden age of airsoft information and discussion.
__________________
From OP BF3: Welcome to the 6mm Big Gay Boat Ride
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:02 PM.


Airsoft Guns, Tactical Gear, Military Gear, Ohio Airsoft Retailer

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2005 - 2009 Airsoft Ohio