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At Kadesh many (10+) people went down because of lack of water, knowledge of body, too much gear and heat. It was a good thing we had medical professionals on the field that day otherwise things might of gone south quickly.
For me, I know how much water to take in and how I'm doing water wise based on how I feel (hard to explain). Why tear up your body if you don't have to? +1 for closed thread
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To anyone reading this thread, is it really worth it to not take a drink of water every few minutes when it's hot out? You wouldn't skip on your goggles, so why skip on your water? |
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Guys, just be glad the average age of active AO players is in the 18-25 range. Because in the IAA the average age of active players is in the 14-19 range. You want to talk about some stupidity. Being an Admin over there takes every ounce of my patience not to hurt someone. While you guys may be seeing an increase in young stupidity around here remember that it could be worse....
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I keep a camelbak and one canteen plus bring two extra gallons of water just in case. one thing that is also important to remember for the 21+ crowd is to remember not to drink the night before. A hangover is dehydration and adding a few hours in the heat will only make that dangerous. If you are going to knock a few back, make sure it is not on a weekend where you have an event.
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I can bet money the people that have gone down at games thought the very same thing you did and were proven wrong. If you're really that dumb to believe it won't happen to you, it only shows that you have a naive and irresponsible attitude toward this topic. That attitude would get you kicked off my field and permanently banned. I hope no one listens to you or tries to follow your "tough guy" lead. I hope if you do go down at a game, you're lucky enough to be at one with trained medical professionals who can save your life.
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sadly enough after years of boy scouting and being in a venture patrol i've seen plenty of dehydration....if you can get dehydrated walking between tents in mesh shorts and a cut off shirt then u can sure as hell do it in full bdus with 20+++ lbs of gear on...when hiking i drink a 2 liter cammel pack within 2 to 5 miles in up and down terrein (characteristic of an airsoft match) and im not running or getting shot at....or wearing full bdus for that matter...watch ur piss!...if it's yellow...drink...alot...if ur head hurts...drink...a lot...if you start cramping...drink...a lot...if you can't function properly...stop...just stop...and drink more....simplicity...water covers 75 percent of our earth(drinkable or otherwise) and isn't exactly rare as diamonds in an event environment....drink ur water....
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I feel like people are starting to learn the importance of water more and more. In fact my friends and I were just talking about this, about how soldiers in the Army are forced to stop every once in awhile, and the superiors watch them and make sure they drink at least two bottles of water. Dehydration is serious, it lands people in the hospital and can do serious damage.
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at 5% dehydration can affect your ability to walk, you don't even feel thirst until you're at 2% dehydration. Drink about a quart or two (full sized powerade bottle or a quart canteen) about every hour. Also try to carry something with you to replace electrolytes lost in your sweat too, bananas are great for this but not always the easiest to carry. .25 tablespoons of salt per liter of water will also help with this problem.
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While I completely agree about staying hydrated, a gallon every two hours seems quite excessive. You're talking about 8 gallons or 1000+ ounces every day. Recommended intake for an active male is approximately 3 liters (roughly 100oz). Even if you were to double that, you're still well below what you recommend. 16oz every two hours is my minimum, 16oz every hour is preferable.
Also, it's also advisable that you weigh yourself (naked) prior to the event and after the event. For every pound you "lost" drink 20-24 ounces of water. The banana/salt tricks are good. You can also carry a sports drink. Try to choose one with higher carbohydrates as not only will it replenish your electrolytes but also your glycogen stores for continuous energy. *edit* Remember, the more water you drink, the more sodium you need as your body is constantly diluting your sodium/electrolyte stores to pass the water. Last edited by tr3b0r; 09-04-2010 at 12:42 PM. |
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I don't want to reiterate how important hydration is; but the fact you have to know your body.
Myself am a very physically active person. I run 10miles almost everyday and sometimes multiple times on stressful days. Hydration BEFORE physical activity is AS IMPORTANT as during. I drink more then 30oz of water before a run. If I don't I can feel every part of my body begging within the first half mile. Your muscles are roughly 70% water. Muscle dehydration(or electrolyte imbalance) will cause cramps, twitches, numbness, pain, ect. Another HUGE reason is function. Muscle function such as responsiveness, strength, ect are all decreased up to 3x without proper water. dehydration also hurts your cardiovascular system substantially; Your heart works up to 10% harder, blood is thick and hard to move, bloodcells, nutrients, ect will not reach your cells as quickly. One of the first things to happen after heat exhaustion are heart-attacks, strokes, pulmonary embolism (elderly crowd more likely though) Another quick tip, if you are dehydrated, your pee is going to be dark and concentrated. When your body needs water it will pull it from the contents of your bladder,fat,muscles,ect. So if your pee is concentrated with little water, it's safe to say that your body is leeching water and not functioning properly. Treatment for dehydration takes less then 10min to take effect from GI system. IV water for sever dehydration works instantaneously (though d/t it being IV you must do slowly) Last edited by RustyMetal; 09-16-2010 at 07:12 AM. |
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[QUOTE=British;283563]Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. My dad wrestled in high school and he still says to this day that some of the stuff he and the other wrestlers did to make weight were really dumb things. Your body is not fine when you abuse it! You are doing damage to it, just because it doesn't show up right away does not mean there is no problem. Watch the movie "Super Size me", he was fine for awhile, but it soon caught up to him didn't it?
Which is completely true, i already have the starts of arthritis from bursitis that had in my knee during the season. I understand that some people are stupid and do not think what so ever. Its just that i dont understand why there needs to be post after post talking about it when its just a simple matter to fix by not allowing them to play at your event. i not only bring a hydration pack but a couple gallons with me just incase. Everytime ive seen people without they are the 15 year olds with the plastic walmart see-through special and random colored hoodies and jeans. that in return never call a hit. |
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16 oz. of fluid is 2 cups, or 1 pint, half of a large gatorade bottle, nowhere near what you should drink in 2 hours, or even 1 hour.
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What's sad is it's so EASY to stay hydrated, people just don't do it. You can get a 3 liter camelback for pretty cheap, fill it up, and while you're on the field just drink up. Heck, it's even hands free! (kind of)
I think people just say to themselves "Oh that wouldn't happen to me, I won't be exerting myself that much." That's what I was thinking my first game, and thank goodness I brought tons of water anyway. Just standing out in the heat with my gear on dehydrates me lol. I've also noticed that drinking lots of water the few days prior to heading out makes a huge difference as well. Anyway, I think it's been said over and over before, but drink water while you're out there! Even if you don't think you need it! What's the worst thing that can happen? You have to pee after the round is over? |
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![]() As my suggestion, 16oz every two hours (minimum) would mean you would drink eight times a day. 16 x 8 = ... 128! 128oz is a gallon. As, as stated before, I'm pretty sure that is somewhat "near what you should drink". And if you think drinking two gallons of water a day (as I recommended) is "nowhere near what you should drink", then you probably have serious hydration issues. |
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It is also a matter of your size. It takes more energy for a 200 pound man to move his accessory-filled M16 (for example), MOLLE vest with all it's pouches filled, and all the other luxurious things he wishes to carry than a 120 pound 14 year old who is carrying his stock JG G36C with his chest rig that has a water bottle and 1 hi cap. Who drinks more? Considering they both do the same amount of work, the 200 pound man should drink more. The variables are as multiple as the risks. Another thing is a 14 year old is unlikely able to drink the amount of fluid as a man, so that also affects how much water he carries.
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Moreover, my post was to illustrate that I do indeed have a grasp on conversions. I was also referring to an allotment over the course of a typical day, not an Airsoft event. But, if we are talking about "game play" time versus the time that passes throughout the day then you could drink 16oz every other hour until your game and then the rest over the course of your game. My events are 6 hours so it would pan out like this: 10hrs other time - 80oz 6hrs Airsoft event - 176oz Divide the ounces by those 6 hours and you would be drinking approximately 30oz of water each hour. Which would coincide with your "large Gatorade" way of measuring water. But it would still be advisable to hydrate well PRIOR to the event and then maintain the hydration. The human body passes about 50oz a day through urine and typically 32oz a day through sweat/breathing/muscular activation. So when you drink 4 gallons of water, you either plan on sweating out 400+oz or taking a whole buncha' leaks. |
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To newer members to airsofting events who are just getting started and are just getting gear (like me) and want a MOLLE vest but dont want to spend extra for a hydration carrier as well, i recomend this: http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_inf...oducts_id=4922
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You guys bicker way too much. All this stupidity is just proving the name of this thread.
Drink water the night before Drink in the morning Drink on the way to the event Drink during the event During Break Times drink more Make sure you eat Breakfast and Lunch Skip Soda at lunch and drink water Make sure you get electrolytes in you before heading back out, an easy way to do this is to get Camelbak Elixir tablets, search around for them. Drink water, always. Piss clear you're good. Piss not clear, drink more. Done. This thread should be finished.
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SoL hit it on the mark. Im just learning this sport, but the basics are simple (their available if you SEARCH).
Water is more important on the field than you M....whatever....in my case next event Para249/Magpul ACR |
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OK, since some of the points were lost in the last 60+ posts, I will rehash:
(1) Wear clothing and gear appropriate to your outside temperature. (2) Ditch gear and clothing as necessary to allow proper cooling. (3) Practice proper hydration procedures throughout the day (4) Know your limits - be safe, not sorry. (5) Listen to the Vet players!!! (6) When in Doubt, ask yourself WWRD? - What Would Reed DO? 'nuff said...
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Well said, when i was in the army it was a common fact that you need to drink water, come on your in a desert, but there are those ppl out there that think they know it all. The sad fact is falling out from lack of water can cause serious damage to you it can cause your brain to swell to the point it simply runs out of room in your skull, then what happens? Brain damage! Wow that sounds alot more fun than simply taking a drink ocasionally.
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I prefer What Would Jesus Do, so I fill a clay pot with water and turn it into root beer. Booyah, power of God, lol.
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