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Old 11-26-2014, 09:36 AM
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stuff that everyone needs know, if you play airsoft or not.

please share this with as many people as you know. your kids too.
1. polymer frames destroy the entire purpose of multicolored stocks for identification.

THESE ARE ALL REAL FIRING GUNS. THEY ARE TO THE LETTER ON WHAT THE PROPOSED FAKE GUN ID'ING LAW IS PROPOSING.
2. it is ILLEGAL to not have a 5mm orange tip on the end of your airsoft gun. if your gun does not have this tip, five bucks can save your life:
http://www.amazon.com/Sargent-Art-22.../dp/B004P1IE3U
3. there is no legislation requiring people to be taught this. had there been this legislation, the Colorado movie shooting would not have happened, he would have been stopped at the door. the guy who shot up the theater walked into the theater with no resistance, and shot up the theater moments later. ONE QUESTION (1) could have saved countless lives.
3. if any legislation is passed to make airsoft guns be required by law to be brightly colored, I have no doubt both gun enthusiasts and airsofters alike will be very angry. perhaps angrier than Ferguson.
4.let me speak in a language the kids who will probably screw this up can understand. if the po-po show up and tell you to drop your gun, play elsewhere, stop playing, ect. DO NOT POINT YOUR GUN AT THEM, JOKING OR OTHERWISE. THEY MOST LIKELY HAVE A VERY GOOD REASON TO TELL YOU TO STOP PLAYING. slowly put your airsoft gun down, explain to them that it's a toy gun, and that it is not a threat to them. I cannot stress this enough, DO NOT POINT YOUR AIRSOFT GUN AT SOMEONE WHO IS NOT PLAYING, JOKING OR OTHERWISE. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WALK AROUND WITH MORE FIREPOWER THAN MOST POLICE OFFICERS CARRY ON A DAY TO DAY BAISIS. it's called concealed carry, but they could also call the police, who might get you killed as well.
5. if you see someone without an orange tip on their gun stop them and show them this.
6.if you see someone waving around a gun in a manner that someone who is not informed on an airsoft gun, stop them and show them this.
7. just like Smokey the bear says, only you can prevent police involved shootings.
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texx has put it into a common sense statement:
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Think about your level of privacy in your backyard.

Think about who can or might see you shooting in your backyard and what they will think, say, and/or do.

If they're the type of people to freak out, get mad, or make accusations, then there's an answer.

If they're going to be okay with it going on, then just be considerate of your backdrop and whether your shooting may hit person or property.

The bottom line is think about someone other than yourself. Protect your neighbors and yourself from injury or property damage. And consider the impact of you displaying your guns in your back yard.

Consider that the greatest security to your hobby and property is the fact your neighbors never need know about it unless they are the type of people who would support your participation.

If they don't know of a problem, there won't be a problem. You can continue to be a good neighbor.
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still confused? curious if you can or can't do something?
DON'T DO IT.
it's that f*cking simple.
it's much nicer to not get killed by someone who is uneducated or doesn't get the situation than to say that you got to play in a cool park. because as much as you think that someone will not shoot you, there will always be that one person that does not understand what is happening, and will end up in you getting killed.
also, side note, what were to happen if a white kid were to be shot? certainly not what is happening now.
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Old 11-26-2014, 10:10 AM
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stuff that everyone needs know, if you play airsoft or not.

Just a little note, if you read federal law, it is NOT illegal to remove the orange tip from an Airsoft gun:

Although airsoft guns in the United States are generally sold with a 6mm (0.24in.) or longer orange tip on the barrel in order to distinguish them from real firearms, this is not required by federal law. Manufacturers and importers may cite Title 15 of the Code of Federal Regulations on foreign commerce and trade, which stipulate that "no person shall manufacture, enter into commerce, ship, transport, or receive any toy, look-alike, or imitation firearm" without approved markings; these may include an orange tip, orange barrel plug, brightly colored exterior of the whole toy, or transparent construction (part 272.2, formerly part 1150.2). However, section 272.1 (formerly 1150.1) clearly indicates that these restrictions shall not apply to "traditional b-b, paint-ball, or pellet-firing air guns that expel a projectile through the force of compressed air, compressed gas or mechanical spring action, or any combination thereof." [36] This language clearly exempts airsoft guns from these requirements, placing them in the same category as bb-guns, pellet, air, and paintball, none of which are conventionally sold or used with an orange tip, and many of which bear as much resemblance to real firearms as airsoft guns do.

Also, it does NOT state it is unlawful for an individual to remove the orange tip once purchased.

This was checked by local law enforcement and a local lawyer who both were very polite and encouraging on finding out the exact law.

No matter the law though, you should always treat an Airsoft gun as though it was real. Can we lock this thread please, these seem to pop up every other week. Maybe sticky an older one or this one.

And on another note, is you see someone "waiving around" a gun like an idiot in public, call the police. I don't care if it's an Airsoft gun or real. Do not approach them to show the a thread on a forum.

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Old 11-26-2014, 11:25 AM
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Just one last point to make if you remove the orange tip for all intents and purposes to onlookers it has become a real gun keep that in mind. Sorry to keep this alive just wanted to make that point.
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Before this thread gets out of hand... The responsibility as with most things, belongs to the person in possession of the gun. While they are actual firearms, they are still toys and shoot non lethal projectiles. But because there are no distinguishing features, I.E. orange tips... there is no way to tell the difference at distance. All of these "shootings" in the papers DO NOT have anything to do with airsoft but moreover the actions of the parties involved with them. This includes both law enforcement and most importantly the civilians who have acted in a non responsible manner causing things like that to happen.

General rules.
Never take your airsoft weapon out in public; orange tip or not
If you must transport your weapon to and from the store or event buy a gun case or bag. Or atleast transport it in it's original packaging.

It's really that simple. Backyard airsoft on private property is fun, but unless it's a controlled environment... you are at risk.
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Old 11-26-2014, 09:02 PM
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Easiest way to avoid a Police confrontation is to only play airsoft at a legitimate airsoft field. Ya know, unless there are cops on the field.. 'cuz some cops are cool and like to airsoft.. Not like the uncool ones that just drive around and are like "I'm a cop, I'm a badass." Yeah I hate those kind of cops.

Don't airsoft in public or privately owned property without permission. If you play in a park or at school or places where liberal gun-hating commies will see you and wet themselves... You will probably be shot by a cop or maybe a CCW guy who wanted to be a cop but failed the physical part because he liked donuts a little TOO much and slept late and missed orientation. Yeah, don't be that guy.

If you have private property to play on, make sure you have permission to play there and that it not be out in the open where liberal gun-hating commies will see you and proceed to wet and soil themself in a manner that is not very dignified. Because, ya know, gun are evil and you might hurt children. Then some cop is gonna get a call and be like, "Somebody is at Old Man Johnson place brandishing guns, lets totally shoot first and let the media demonize us later.

Don't play airsoft in your backyard. Come on, you're on a site that helps organize and schedule games. Besides, your backyard sucks, no matter how many lame forts you try to build. There's always the chance some neighbor will see what you're doing and be all like "well, his parents are just awful and there ought to be a law against that. Then some mouse farts on their prized rosebushes and the pedals fall off and they blame you for it.

If you're a kid and mommy gave you airsoft for your birthday, don't play Billy Badass and take it to school. Being named William, myself, you can never be as cool or badass as me. Like this one time, I did this totally cool thing and all the players around were like - "Yeah that's cool." But you know what, you weren't there, so you missed it. That's why you're not cool.

Umm....

Let's see.

That's all I got, so here's some Heckle and Jeckle, cuz you kids like cartoons and stuff...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9yLYs0UgQs
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Just a question been thinking about what about shooting a airsoft gun in your backyard. The difference being sitting their shooting at a target not playing with another person? I will be the first to admit that I have done both. I would think that would be fine?
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Think about your level of privacy in your backyard.

Think about who can or might see you shooting in your backyard and what they will think, say, and/or do.

If they're the type of people to freak out, get mad, or make accusations, then there's an answer.

If they're going to be okay with it going on, then just be considerate of your backdrop and whether your shooting may hit person or property.

The bottom line is think about someone other than yourself. Protect your neighbors and yourself from injury or property damage. And consider the impact of you displaying your guns in your back yard.

Consider that the greatest security to your hobby and property is the fact your neighbors never need know about it unless they are the type of people who would support your participation.

If they don't know of a problem, there won't be a problem. You can continue to be a good neighbor.
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Just a little note, if you read federal law, it is NOT illegal to remove the orange tip from an Airsoft gun:

Although airsoft guns in the United States are generally sold with a 6mm (0.24in.) or longer orange tip on the barrel in order to distinguish them from real firearms, this is not required by federal law. Manufacturers and importers may cite Title 15 of the Code of Federal Regulations on foreign commerce and trade, which stipulate that "no person shall manufacture, enter into commerce, ship, transport, or receive any toy, look-alike, or imitation firearm" without approved markings; these may include an orange tip, orange barrel plug, brightly colored exterior of the whole toy, or transparent construction (part 272.2, formerly part 1150.2). However, section 272.1 (formerly 1150.1) clearly indicates that these restrictions shall not apply to "traditional b-b, paint-ball, or pellet-firing air guns that expel a projectile through the force of compressed air, compressed gas or mechanical spring action, or any combination thereof." [36] This language clearly exempts airsoft guns from these requirements, placing them in the same category as bb-guns, pellet, air, and paintball, none of which are conventionally sold or used with an orange tip, and many of which bear as much resemblance to real firearms as airsoft guns do.

Also, it does NOT state it is unlawful for an individual to remove the orange tip once purchased.

This was checked by local law enforcement and a local lawyer who both were very polite and encouraging on finding out the exact law.
yes, you are not required to have it on, but if you move it or sell it, well, you can potentially be breaking the law.
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No matter the law though, you should always treat an Airsoft gun as though it was real. Can we lock this thread please, these seem to pop up every other week. Maybe sticky an older one or this one.
sure, but texx's statement is probably the simplest way to say this. as is the last bit.
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And on another note, is you see someone "waiving around" a gun like an idiot in public, call the police. I don't care if it's an Airsoft gun or real. Do not approach them to show the a thread on a forum.
the whole point of showing them this would be to confirm the fact that they know that they could be killed pretty easily by doing that. even this conversation would suffice:
"hey, stop that. some one might think it's real and get you shot."
"but it's not real bruh."
"I don't care, someone else might think it's real. particularly a swat team."
"bruh it's not what are you smoking?"
after a similar conversation, if they keep on doing this, they probably deserve to die.
kind of like some of the crocs from PBS
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yes, you are not required to have it on, but if you move it or sell it, well, you can potentially be breaking the law.
No, I am sorry but you are wrong on this fact. If you read the law, airsoft guns fall into the same category as paintball guns under federal law. Therefore they are exempt from the law above and the orange tip law.

How about this, just treat every airsoft gun as if it was a real one and is if it were loaded. Always carry it in a gun bag if you are transporting it and if you get pulled over, notify the police officer that you have an airsoft gun in the trunk. This stuff isn't that hard to figure out.

Orange tip law or not, some people are just stupid when it comes to safety, whether it be real steel or airsoft. You hear about it on the news all the time.
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Orange tip law or not, some people are just stupid when it comes to safety, whether it be real steel or airsoft. You hear about it on the news all the time.
good point. but...
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American Airlines Flight 191 (Wikipedia)
in airframe (great book BTW), it is covered even deeper. what caused it? AA did every thing that Douglass aircraft told them not to do. after the the crash, the DC-10 never flew again. this was one of the few crashes to it's record. until then it had a spotless record. imagine what these idiots we see in the news do! they are practically taking the AA mechanics as role models.
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Omg, on that note, I think I'm done with this thread.


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