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Old 05-29-2011, 08:05 PM
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MARSOC Impression Kit List (help appreciated)

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I've decided that this summer, I'm going to obliterate my old dedicated vest and ballcap for a professional loadout. I am going for a Marine Socom (MARSOC) kit, and so far, I've laid out all that I need to get (for starters, that is). Any help/suggestions from anyone is appreciated.

So, onto my kit list.

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MSA MICH 2000
Black Norotos 3-hole Shroud
Goggle retention straps

Eyewear:
Tan ESS Profile NVGs
Oakley M-Frames

1st Line:
EI Riggers belt (khaki)
BHI M9 Serpa or an M9 Safariland (CB)
CSM dump pouch (Khaki or CB)

2nd Line:
EI RRV w/ EI RRV Backplate (CB or Khaki)
Pantac or Flyye Triple M4 Pouch (Khaki)
Pantac or Flyye Admin pouch (Khaki)
Pantac or Flyye MAP (Khaki)
Pantac or Flyye Medium Medical/Accessory Pouch (CB or Khaki)
Pantac or Flyye small radio pouch (CB or Khaki)

Extras:

Mechanix or Flight gloves
CB or Foliage balaclava
Propper DESPAT jacket and pants
Alta knee pads (CB)
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:13 PM
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If you want colors to be true, get FLYYE instead of pantac. FLYYE's colors match EI near spot on, whereas. Pantac's CB is much darker than EI.

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What time frame you thinking?

Also, I started doing the same thing you are and did not like Pantac's Coyote Brown color (it is to dark compared to EI Coy). If I were you, ditch the Pantac CB, get either Flyye CB or EI CB. IMO

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Old 05-29-2011, 08:19 PM
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Thanks guys. I'll look into the Flyye.

Phoenix, I'm aiming for a 2010-11 (basically now) impression.
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Looks good. A few things I would change such as the radio pouch. Another thing to note is on your blaster, keep it Block 2 M4. On your helmet, go with a norotros 1 hole mount, it's pretty universal. One last thing, 2010-2011 MARSOC operators are wearing khaki now, so don't feel restricted to Khaki.
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How accurate are you looking to be with this kit? Do you want to do something similar to what I did and keep it moderately accurate, while being effective for airsoft? Or do you want to go the "wtfwhyamidoingthis" route? Even if you wanted to keep it moderately accurate your kitlist still has quite a few discrepancies that are crucial to the kit.
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Head:
MSA MICH 2000
Ops Core PVS Mount w/ Norotos rhino arm (both are going to be real)
Go with a Norotos 3 hole instead of the ops core
Goggle retention straps

1st Line:
EI Riggers belt (khaki)
BHI M9 Serpa or an M9 Safariland (CB)Safariland
Pantac dump pouch (CB)Just buy a CSM dump, they are quite cheap on eBay
Do you have plans to modify your gun to fit the loadout?

This, http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=92185, should help you out quite a bit.
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Head:
MSA MICH 2000
Ops Core PVS Mount w/ Norotos rhino arm (both are going to be real)
Goggle retention straps

Get a Norotos 3 hole mount, leave the arm, It's rare to see the MARSOC guys with arms on their lids, and even then they have the expensive norotos AKA2 or TATM arms. Other than this you helmet set up looks good.

Eyewear:
Tan ESS Profile NVGs
Oakley M-Frames

Good to go here.

1st Line:
EI Riggers belt (khaki)
BHI M9 Serpa or an M9 Safariland (CB)
Pantac dump pouch (CB)

As slim said, grab a CSM dump pouch, that is the actual issued item and they can be had for relatively cheap. They don't actually make a CB Safariland. The ones they make are (I think) called Dark Earth. Also I would recommend getting some additional pistol mags and running them on your belt. This is common place among MARSOC and FR units.

2nd Line:
EI RRV (CB)
Pantac (or EI) Triple M4 Pouch x2 (CB)
Pantac Admin pouch (CB)
Pantac MAP or EI Spine MAP (CB)
Pantac small radio pouch (CB)

This is the part of your kit I'm most concerned about. While this will make a "great for airsoft" kit, this would not fly as a MARSOC Impression. First of all, if you're going for a current MARSOC impression you would be quite likely to see a few Khaki pouches, if not ALL khaki pouches on a Coyote brown rig. Yeah it looks weird, but that's been the trend as of late. Also lighten your mag load, you will likely NEVER see a MARSOC operator carrying 12+1 magazines. Lighten down to 6 or 8+1 This would be more appropriate to the MARSOC kit. Throw some other pouches on the front of the RRV, specifically an MBITR pouch, probably a few frag pouches, or smoke grenade pouches, medical pouches etc.

Beyond this, the Spine style packs like NEVER EVER EVER get used in the real world. If you want a MAP ont he back fo your vest put on a back plate, and then a MAP. A Direct Action unit, like MARSOC would likely never get caught without a back plate, and in the case of an RRV probably not without a soft armore carrier (ie a PACA) as well.


Extras:

Oakley SI Assault gloves
CB balaclava
DESPAT Uniform
Shemagh
Alta knee pads (CB)

This all looks fine. Though I wouldn't wear a Balaclava and a Shemagh, unless you have a death wish called heatstroke. Infact...I wouldn't wear either unless you nabbed one of the FROG hoods
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Thanks for all the information guys! I may end up getting the Norotos mount instead of the Ops Core.

@ Sunshine (my bad),

Wow, I'll have to look into that a little more. It looks like they are getting a little more with it, like the 3rd SFG. lol

@ Clark,

As much as I'd love to get carried away like that, my funds are somewhat limited. I'd kinda like to be as accurate as I can while still maintaining agileness on the field (e.g., I can't stand the fanny packs they wear).

@ Phil,

Thanks for the tips on the RRV. I'll be sure to get some khaki stuff to throw on it and a med pouch and stuff. I'll take a look into the pistol mags for my 1st line.

As a note, I've done a little more research, and it looks like some MARSOCs are using khaki vests/ciras'. Should I go ahead and get a khaki RRV instead? I know it fits Ohio's terrain a little bit better at times than CB, especially during the summer/spring. Any thoughts?
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If you are doing an impression, you ARE getting the right color and the right vest. Period. If there are some pics of MARSOC using RRVs and some using CIRASes, go ahead, take your pick. But you have to pick either the Rhodesian or the CIRAS.

Impressions can be hard and can take time and money. Have a "budget"? Learn about saving up and doing it right. Think about it, you're trying to represent someone that is risking his life for us. Do you really want to half-*** it because of what 'works better' in Ohio? Or do you want to represent the guy in the Mid-East? Just something to think about while doing any impression...

Also, kitten hasn't posted in this thread...

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Old 05-30-2011, 08:31 PM
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Another option is an RBAV. But those are not for those on a budget
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If you are doing an impression, you ARE getting the right color and the right vest. Period. If there are some pics of MARSOC using RRVs and some using CIRASes, go ahead, take your pick. But you have to pick either the Rhodesian or the CIRAS.

Impressions can be hard and can take time and money. Have a "budget"? Learn about saving up and doing it right. Think about it, you're trying to represent someone that is risking his life for us. Do you really want to half-*** it because of what 'works better' in Ohio? Or do you want to represent the guy in the Mid-East? Just something to think about while doing any impression...

Also, kitten hasn't posted in this thread...
Right, but if I had to chose between one, I think I may go with the khaki. I'm just pointing out that not only is it being used but that it works better and that is why I would prefer it. Both look to be correct now that I've seen it. Plus, I've already planned this kit out for a while. I've got a little over the 300 bucks out of the around 900 needed, so don't worry, I'm saving.

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Alright, after doing a ton of google searching, it looks like they are starting to move over to full khaki set-ups. (yippee!) So, I'm all ready to start collecting the things I need.

Thanks for all the help guys! Looking forward to getting it all together.
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Also, instead of an M9 you might go with a 1911
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Also, instead of an M9 you might go with a 1911
+1, as they officially use the 1911. And heck, only O6-O10 (Bird Colonels and all Generals) and Navy personnel assigned to Marine units, rank of E-6 and above even get the pistol in the rest of the Corps- the rest (Marine LTC down to PVT, and Navy E5 and below) receive an M4!

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A little off topic, but I thought the guys in the Expeditionary Brigades utilize M9s also
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There is the FROG gear too, if you can get that
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A little off topic, but I thought the guys in the Expeditionary Brigades utilize M9s also
Eh, I'm done after this to avoid getting off topic, but check out the link... Iunno.

I found the link via Wiki, but found and read the actual (rules? regs)- anyway, I just know what I read. Maybe they do, Marines are not my area of expertise.
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I have also seen MARSOF carry both the M9 and the 1911 (makes me jealous ).


Just FYI the MARSOF here in western Afghanistan wear woodland BDUs. I know it sounds crazy, but there is alot more vegetation here that people realize.

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Your statment about the E-6 and bellow not getting pistols is`` inaccurate. I have seen many E-6 and bellow carrying around M9s.
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For 2010 and on, there are a rising number of photos of marines and other sf units taking up woodland. On topic of sidearms, 1911 is the norm, but m9s are documented.
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90% of you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. MARSOC wears whatever the hell they want. And specter's right, most of the ground forces in Afghanistan anymore are wearing woodland marpat. Get a coyote tan plate carrier, woodland marpat cammie's, some oakley boots and a ball cap and you're good. All marsoc has sidearms(at least the ones I've met), no matter what rank they were and they were all 1911's but I rarely saw them leave the fob with them.
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I have also seen MARSOF carry both the M9 and the 1911 (makes me jealous ).


Just FYI the MARSOF here in western Afghanistan wear woodland BDUs. I know it sounds crazy, but there is alot more vegetation here that people realize.

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Your statment about the E-6 and bellow not getting pistols is`` inaccurate. I have seen many E-6 and bellow carrying around M9s.
I said Naval personnel of that rank. The ones attached to the Corps.

Plus, I was just showing the article I had found- a new reg may have been put into effect, some units may not follow it, etc. etc.

My point being that, regulation-wise, the Corps isn't extremely gaga over the M9. And the stopping power of the 1911 tends to sway opinion towards it anyway.

Regardless. It's irrelevant. off-topic. I never stated I was 100% without a doubt correct, so I'm open to being informed otherwise. Also, I'm not in the military, BUT I understand that regs and practices don't always match up. So..
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90% of you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. MARSOC wears whatever the hell they want.
Incorrect. You may just be part of that percent. They are issued certain pouch lots, such as FSBEII. So no, they cannot wear whatever they want to, they can put it together how ever they want, but not with whatever they want.
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lol, you must never been to marsoc supply then sunshine. I had a marsoc team on the same fob of mine for 7 months of my life and another 8 on ship. So please, inform me on how marsoc operates.
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Gunner, you are implying that MARSOC wears whatever they want. By that logic, AOR2 and a JPC would work for a MARSOC impression. Is this correct?
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