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Old 02-11-2012, 06:13 PM
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AEGs with the best of both worlds (cqb and field)

To start off Im not sure if i posted this in the correct section feel free to remove it.

Ok so is there any way (if possible) to have an AEG that shoots say 350-365 and yet still reach a far distance accurately?
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Old 02-11-2012, 06:24 PM
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Yes, there are countless combinations of barrels, hop-ups and bbs that you can use to get great range while keeping your barrel length short. You could also go with a bulllup design if you want a full length barrel but the shortness of a carbine
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how? im guessing by getting a tight bore and other internals
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Old 02-11-2012, 06:32 PM
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TBB will increase your FPS keep in mind so maybe but like a M110 spring so that if other internal upgrades make your FPS go up you will still be able to use it in CQB. A systema bucking would help along with a nice hop up.
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Dude if you want the best results, pm Jonezy and ask him.lol he will give you a great price and answer any questions you have
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A gun with a folding stock will also help by having the ability to shorten it's silhouette when you enter confined areas.
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Nate, PM Jonezy and we can get something going for you.
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I'm not sure why everyone thinks this, but tight bore barrels do not help with range or accuracy
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^^^^ Not to flame, but ummmm...what? Yes they do. They clearly do. Less air escapes around the side of the bb as it's going through the inner barrel, making it keep it's momentum much longer. My FPS went up about 35fps just by getting a tight bore. I had to switch back to the regular inner to not be over 400fps.

But I'm just wondering what's wrong with a typical M4? In 2001, when M-16's were still the main gun used by soldiers, SF would brag about using an M4 for CQB because it's so much more helpful. I'm all for a shorter barrel, I love them, but in real life, I use my 16in AR-15 for home defense because they're just fine for CQB situations.
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Tight bores help mainly with FPS. Yes, tight bore barrels help with range and accuracy, but you also have to keep in mind that the tight bore will more than likely be a better quality that the stock barrel.

Case in point I've had a stock TM 6.08 preform better than a Madbull 6.01. Even PDI, who arguably make the best barrels, even say the 6.01s are for FPS, and the 6.08 is for range/accuracy.

Go with an R-hop as it will help you with range. Also, in airsoft, barrel length really means nothing...
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^^^^ Not to flame, but ummmm...what? Yes they do. They clearly do. Less air escapes around the side of the bb as it's going through the inner barrel, making it keep it's momentum much longer. My FPS went up about 35fps just by getting a tight bore. I had to switch back to the regular inner to not be over 400fps.

But I'm just wondering what's wrong with a typical M4? In 2001, when M-16's were still the main gun used by soldiers, SF would brag about using an M4 for CQB because it's so much more helpful. I'm all for a shorter barrel, I love them, but in real life, I use my 16in AR-15 for home defense because they're just fine for CQB situations.
So what you are saying is FPS increases range? Try to explain why a 270 fps TM can out range any 400 fps Echo 1.

PDI (the best barrels ever) have begun selling a 6.08 barrel claiming that it has more accuracy.

"Actually,we are not sure to say 6.04mm is the best barrel.
Because it's depend on each setting.For example,if you want better
FPS,we recommend 6.01.If you want better accuracy,you may choice
6.08mm.

In our opinion,
In case of smaller Dia.,you'll get more speed.
On the other hand,in case of larger Dia.,youfll get a better accuracy.


Smalller Dia. has strong pressure for BB.An Airflow makes BB stable.

Thanks

PDI Co.,Ltd.
Sales Manager
Tomohiko Nishizono "

http://www.x-fire.org/etop/08.html
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Wait...crap. Sorry. I some how read that you said "range, accuracy, and FPS." I don't know why. My post was directed at your FPS statement which you made in my head. Please ignore.

However, I still stand on the M4 being just fine for CQB. If you want the best of both worlds...BAM
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My G&P Sentry does a good job with field and CQB.
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So what you are saying is FPS increases range? Try to explain why a 270 fps TM can out range any 400 fps Echo 1.

PDI (the best barrels ever) have begun selling a 6.08 barrel claiming that it has more accuracy.

"Actually,we are not sure to say 6.04mm is the best barrel.
Because it's depend on each setting.For example,if you want better
FPS,we recommend 6.01.If you want better accuracy,you may choice
6.08mm.

In our opinion,
In case of smaller Dia.,you'll get more speed.
On the other hand,in case of larger Dia.,youfll get a better accuracy.


Smalller Dia. has strong pressure for BB.An Airflow makes BB stable.

Thanks

PDI Co.,Ltd.
Sales Manager
Tomohiko Nishizono "

http://www.x-fire.org/etop/08.html
I definitely get what they are saying... The airflow around keeps it stabilized.

I drew this up to clarify:
Sorry for the grammar fail. Paint didn't have a spell check to get my attention I misspelled "Balance".
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i recamend a sig 552 because it has a folding stock and has enogh fps and range for field use. jg, ics , tokyo marie and some other compaines make them. ics has a full metal one but it is 300-350 dollars but jg makes a simaler one but it is plastic but its price is awsome at 120-140. the sig has a short barrel but you what some thing longer get the sig 551 made by the same companys.

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That is correct, PDI also had a small picture somewhat like that, but with no description.
I have not tried one of these barrels yet, but if PDI recommends it over their more expensive 6.01s, I would consider it true.

Pick a barrel length you feel comfortable playing with, no sense in owning a 3 foot gun when you can't move effectively
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I think the question has been answered adequately and with only a minimal amount of flame involved . Closed.
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