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Halo SMG Interest

I was just wondering how much interest there would be in an airsoft Halo SMG and how much people would pay for it. Assume it had Classic Army internals.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:35 PM
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Would it have a warranty?
Would it be tested or sold as is?
Clasic Army is having a very high lemon rate and
the internalls are craping out faster, The outer bodies are
great,

Would the body be metel, plastic, are the CA parts stock?

And are you making and selling these or are you just showing your intrest in making these?
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:46 PM
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mHMM HMM well I think it would be a great idea. Selling them around 200 area I would be interested. They resemble the mp7 a lot so you also maybe able to sell them at the same price. I think it is a great idea and i would be interested/ I like that design a lot.
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:06 PM
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I was just wondering how much interest there would be in an airsoft Halo SMG and how much people would pay for it. Assume it had Classic Army internals.
Please expand your thoughts. Is there a reason you are asking this? Are you or someone else considering producing such an item?

To answer your question, those interested in costuming Halo characters might be interested. My guess is it would have as much of a following as the "Aliens" pulse rifle.
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:07 AM
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Clasic Army is having a very high lemon rate and
the internalls are craping out faster
M&N, please provide a reasoning or source behind the higher lemon rate for CA's. From all reports from people that have bought CA's within the past year, myself included, the consensous is that factory QA is not only much better than it was 3 years ago, but also that the QA may be about on par with TM. The one exception is the SCAR. However with it being a brand new gun design, bugs are to be expected in the first version.

Turtle,

As a businessman and an airsofter the question of price is a sticky one. Posting here and asking people what they would be will to pay is the wrong way to do it. 9/10 people on here will tell you some redicilous low ball figure. Ignore them, make a good mock up/ prototype/ demo model, and price it according to what your costs are. If there is intrest, people will pay for it.

Good luck and post some pics!
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My next gun was likely to be a TM FN P90, but I'd take a Halo SMG over that any day, and pay a comparable amount.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:41 PM
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Alright...

To elaborate, for my Junior CADD project I am designing a Halo SMG airsoft gun. I'm using CA G36C gearbox as the base. It's going to be ridiculously expensive to mold, as I'm only doing one.

I have already designed the lower receiver, foregrip, and charging handle/ejector port, but I still need heavy revisions on the lower receiver. It turned out a little boxier than I wanted.

I don't really like Halo at all, but I'm just making it because it's a simple gun with a challenging design scheme (side-mounted magazine) and because I can probably sell it on eBay. I can probably also sell the resin cast as a prop replica. I want enough for a VFC SCAR out of it.

I would definitely be listing it on eBay, but I'll be advertising for it on other sites.

I can't get pictures up until I get it casted. The AutoCADD pictures are in a wierd format, plus it's in 3D.
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Old 11-17-2007, 05:53 PM
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What hop up unit and magazines will you be using? I hate halo as well, I am simply curious.
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Old 11-17-2007, 09:10 PM
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why make the SMG? I would imagine the Battle Rifle would be an easier platform to make. I'd buy a AR-34 from Perfect Dark if someone made one. I've actually curious why a company hasn't tried getting the rights to video game weapons.
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Because its milsim airsoft. We dont play video game ops on a regular basis.
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:38 AM
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Because its milsim airsoft. We dont play video game ops on a regular basis.
It isn't all about MILSIM. Most people just play skirmishes and some large events. The AR-34 is a realistic looking gun, just that it is from a video game. Just because some people don't think it is 'appropriate' on the field doesn't mean most people will mind/ care. You can use whatever gun you want and customize it however you want. Wear a bright orange vest if you feel like it... doesn't mean it will work well though.
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:20 AM
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DemonUnicorn...can you post a pic of this AR-34...searched the net a bit and could see any pics of it.

So, Turtle...you arent planning on making and selling these..it would be a one time project? I think you were leading a few players to think that you might begin production on a line of these SMGs..in which case I would suggested a different course...There are so many real worls firearms that arent being produced that you could make a killing say, making a Tavor, Masada, the Kriss SuperV, a Galil, the list could go forever.
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http://perfectdark.3dactionplanet.ga...ssion15_08.jpg

Perfect Dark......Best game ever.

I would be interested in seeing the gun, though not purchasing it. Sounds like an interesting idea.
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Alright Demonic Unicorn, if you know how to use a CA36C gearbox to make a bullpup design assault rifle, let me know.

I chose the SMG for the reasons stated. When I post, I intend for people to read it.

-The SMG is small
-It has a unique design with the side-fed magazine.
-It's small. I don't want to have to pay $40 per square inch of casting material for an assault rifle.
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hmmm, BR, i should make one, i think i will...
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:20 PM
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CA36 Gear box is version 3. AUG is version 3. AUG is a bullpup. I'm not bashing your idea of making the SMG, just stating that in my opinion if you were designing a SMG around the V3 gearbox then you are restricting yourself quite a bit as far as space is concerned. In the game the SMG appears to be quite small. The BR would allow a lot more freedom of positioning and design, as well as allotting more room for battery and whatnot. You COULD design it around a AEP gearbox since the SMG lacks a lot of space for gearbox and battery.

I realize you are trying to save money and you said you are only wanting to make one of them. If you are making only one it would probably be cheaper to make it out of solid stock rather than cast it. If your school has a Computer Aided Drafting program then I would assume that your school or another school in the same district has a Machining vocation. When I was in my high schools Machine trades program we worked with the Pre Engineering program to make BattleBots. They designed, we machined, the electronics vocation wired. Why not look into that route if you are making only one? That may be what you are already doing and if it is then disregard that.

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I want enough for a VFC SCAR out of it.
Casting would be great for making at least 5, and if you are wanting to make enough money off this project to buy a SCAR then you would probably need to make more than one.
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Interesting...

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You can use whatever gun you want and customize it however you want.
Obviously he has already invested alot of time into the design of the weapon. And I would say that he probably has a liking to the design, which is understandable because it was originally designed to look "cool".

So stop trying to change his mind because yours is too childish to help him. So stop junking up his thread!

To Turtletrooper. Keep in mind that you cant just throw a gun together with a few casted parts and a gearbox, its still going to have to have the motor engagement adjusted, wiring taken care of, a place for the battery to be stored, the pins and holes for the springs of the charging handle and other moving parts, as well as the hopup adjustments.

But Im sure you know this already, GOOD LUCK!! I want to see the outcome.
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:51 PM
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Spectre, giving constructive criticism on a public forum is what they were designed for.
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I have already designed the lower receiver, foregrip, and charging handle/ejector port, but I still need heavy revisions on the lower receiver. It turned out a little boxier than I wanted.
Yes he said he has already designed a few of the main components of the gun, and that the turn out was not as good as what he had expected. My assumption is that the V3 gear box is a little too bulky for a gun the size of a SMG, therefore making him make the gun aesthetically unsatisfying just to accommodate that gearbox. Hence why I suggested modeling it around an AEP gearbox. So really I don't see how you are coming up with anything that I said as being childish.

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I don't really like Halo at all, but I'm just making it because it's a simple gun with a challenging design scheme (side-mounted magazine) and because I can probably sell it on eBay. I can probably also sell the resin cast as a prop replica. I want enough for a VFC SCAR out of it.
Also, he said he doesn't like Halo at all. The only reason he stated why he wanted to make the SMG was:
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-The SMG is small
-It has a unique design with the side-fed magazine.
-It's small. I don't want to have to pay $40 per square inch of casting material for an assault rifle.
I have a machining and drafting background and gave him my constructive criticism on the project.
-The SMG is small.... therefore the V3 gearbox won't fit easily... hence again why I suggested the AEP gearbox.
-He talked about having it cast. Casting is only ideal for large and small production jobs where the finish is not very important and there are some areas that you don't even mind a rough cast surface, such as the inside of the foregrip or anywhere that isn't meant to be seen by the end user. Hence why I brought up looking into other alternative production methods to help him possibly save money so that he can reach his goal of affording a SCAR after selling One of them.

I look forward to what you come up with Turtle and again, I'm not trying to bash your idea or change you mind as to what gun you are making. Just giving you ideas to make it a little easier.
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I can handle pretty much any major 3D design file (NX, Solid Edge, Solid Works, etc) so feel free to send it and I could give some input. I doubt your HS has it but many colleges and private companies have rapid pototype machines that can essentially print out a 3D object in plastic. It's rather expensive I hear but might be cheaper and quicker than other metal options.
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I'm just working with a V3 gearbox, since that's what I have.

DemonicUnicorn, can you post a link to where I can get an AEP gearbox? That has sparked my interest.

I will most likely be making the gun out of ABS. That's what my teacher told me I'd be using after making a resin cast.

Onsite, we have a machine that prints out in like a resin kind of thing, but it's not strong enough for airsoft use.

And I misunderstood my teacher, it's not $40 per square inch. I don't know where I got that number. It was probably off some of my poor internet sculpting research.

This is going to take a long time to make, since I'm having a lot of trouble with the lower reciever. I can get the V3 to fit, just I'll have to make my own magazine and hop-up to accomodate the weird design.

And I don't know how much I'll want for it now. I need to really research the next gun I get, since I didn't like my CA36C as much as I thought I would, hence it being parted out. It's still in perfect condition if anyone knows anyone who wants one. I even have the receipt from AirsoftSMITH so you'll have some warranty left if you buy it soon.
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How much are wanting to sell the g36c for?
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I would personaly be more interested in seeing the battle rifle or assault rifle from Halo.
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Mavrick and Psychoduck, TehLlama has made a BR on Retreat. (You probably both new that anyway.)

You could check it out there.

It is really just a Fa-Mas with a scope, G36 flash hider, and a few other modifications.
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I actually cannot find any sites that sell just the AEp gearbox. However Mr.Black says that he is able to get them.

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Yes infact it can take a 12v. The piston on these guns are less than an inch long, that means that no mods are nessisary. The electrical is another issue, if the thing does fry I can replace the whole gearbox for around $35.
Just a quote showing you that he can get the AEP gearboxes rather cheap.

I was curios what material(s) you plan on making it out of.
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http://www.pointact.com/cat_34-Metal...x_for_AEG.html

Easy find. Cmon bro.

Also, it would be much easier to use the G36 because you have a matching hop up set. Mr Black himself said that you should not mess too much with hop.
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