Out of the Box Industries Presents: Operation Crucible. June 9th-10th

[HitMan]

I know this could throw a wrench into the grand machine but have you given any thought to splitting up the teams by camo patterns as well? For instance, German flectarn is obviously green but it is a German camo so one would think it would be categorized under the U.E.T. banner. I could see tons of confusion coming from doing this but if this is to be a "full immersion" event then people should do their homework before coming and know how to properly identify their enemy. Besides, we will all be wearing colored armbands anyways to identify friend or foe .

[Wrath the Furious]

I actually like that idea Hitman. It would allow all teams to wear appropriate camo, so the russians wouldn't have to wear civilian, but I imagine there are a lot of complications with it. Besides, I think we all know people don't do enough research on the forums. No matter how hard we try, someone will be there to friendly fire the crap out of you when you least expect it. Although, in some cases it might help. Two weeks ago I wore German flectarn to springfield, and my own green team kept shooting me in the back. It was sad really. I am pretty sure they killed me more times than the enemy ever did. In this case, I might actually be on a different team.

[Vinvyin]

Since I have to miss Iron Skies, then I will definitely make it a goal to be there!

[Sky]

Originally Posted by HitMan

then people should do their homework before coming and know how to properly identify their enemy.

Oh god please yes

[jonahm740]

While it would be epic to be able to break uniforms up according to nationality it would indeed be a nightmare from an EO standpoint . Perhaps down the line we can have a game like that but for now I think we are going to stick with the breakdown the way it is to keep it as simple as possible .

[Raven95]

The horizon looks good. Should be able to run tan with the Black Hats.

[TobiasM91]

Any rules against tripwires/traps/devices?

[Mr Universe]

while it would be epic to be able to break uniforms up according to nationality it would indeed be a nightmare from an eo standpoint . Perhaps down the line we can have a game like that but for now i think we are going to stick with the breakdown the way it is to keep it as simple as possible

i does this all the time. Problem bro?

But seriously, Raptor 1, 2, Damocles, and every othe r event held in WV divides teams by uniform nationality, larger events get arm bands. We seriously have very little issues. I can only think of one notable issue where a guy didnt recognize KLMK as russian, despite the red armband. Which was pretty derp.

[jonahm740]

Originally Posted by TobiasM91

Any rules against tripwires/traps/devices?

Claymores, noise making tripwires yes. Punji pits and snares, no . Setting up an effective perimeter for your base will be a big part of keeping your HQ secure.

[jonahm740]

Originally Posted by Mr Universe

i does this all the time. Problem bro?

But seriously, Raptor 1, 2, Damocles, and every othe r event held in WV divides teams by uniform nationality, larger events get arm bands. We seriously have very little issues. I can only think of one notable issue where a guy didnt recognize KLMK as russian, despite the red armband. Which was pretty derp.

The problem with this Cody is that from my standpoint I am not sure if there are fifty players (max per faction) who want to come to the event who own say Brittish DPM or authentic soviet camo. I am looking at it from a numbers as well as an organizational perspective and honestly that would cut a lot of people out. Asking players to spend 80 dollars plus for a new uniform on top of their travel, the entry fee etc, that's gonna be a bit much for most players I think.

[HitMan]

Originally Posted by jonahm740

The problem with this Cody is that from my standpoint I am not sure if there are fifty players (max per faction) who want to come to the event who own say Brittish DPM or authentic soviet camo. I am looking at it from a numbers as well as an organizational perspective and honestly that would cut a lot of people out. Asking players to spend 80 dollars plus for a new uniform on top of their travel, the entry fee etc, that's gonna be a bit much for most players I think.

Let me clarify my idea a little. You are correct that a majority of people won't want to go buy new camo for this. I was thinking more along the lines of for the people who already have the camo. You already placed CADPAT with the U.C.A. because it is green but I'd like to think that people will wear it because Canada is part of the U.C.A. already. If someone owns and wears British DPM in green or tan then they would automatically get thrown into the U.E.T. If a player only has DESPAT then they don't have to worry, they can still play U.E.T. as well. Same goes for anyone who wishes to wear a Russian camo or Asian camo.

You have set up a wonderful event and I'm just looking at a way for squads and teams to "show off" their foreign load outs while competing for their sides honor and victory. I hope this clarifies my thoughts a little bit. I would never expect players to all go out and buy new uniforms just for one game.

[jonahm740]

Originally Posted by HitMan

Let me clarify my idea a little. You are correct that a majority of people won't want to go buy new camo for this. I was thinking more along the lines of for the people who already have the camo. You already placed CADPAT with the U.C.A. because it is green but I'd like to think that people will wear it because Canada is part of the U.C.A. already. If someone owns and wears British DPM in green or tan then they would automatically get thrown into the U.E.T. If a player only has DESPAT then they don't have to worry, they can still play U.E.T. as well. Same goes for anyone who wishes to wear a Russian camo or Asian camo.

You have set up a wonderful event and I'm just looking at a way for squads and teams to "show off" their foreign load outs while competing for their sides honor and victory. I hope this clarifies my thoughts a little bit. I would never expect players to all go out and buy new uniforms just for one game.

That makes WAAAYYYY more sense and actually that is a pretty freaking cool idea. Well said sir, well said as well as raising a very valid point concerning the color coding for armbands. Perhaps an ammendment to the uniform requirements may be in order after all.

[Big Teddy]

im still wearing multicam if i go, which now that i think about it is a really long drive.

[D-Boy]

Where do I sign up?

[jonahm740]

For right now simply RSVP, I'll be getting a proper registration area soon.

[TobiasM91]

Aw dam...(puts knife and sharpened stakes away xD)

[jonahm740]

Originally Posted by TobiasM91

Aw dam...(puts knife and sharpened stakes away xD)

While we are going for realism and intensity I think that might be just a hair over the top indeed sir .

[jonahm740]

So I was reviewing national camo patterns from various nationalities and the problem that I seem to be encountering is that a large majority use US woodland or tri-color desert (at least according to wikipedia ). I am still reviewing ways to make the uniform requirements different so the poor soviets don't have to show up in jeans .

[D-Boy]

Gents, please I have no horse in this fight, but PLEASE do not place suggestions in this thread. If you are not organizing it, don't suggest/request changes unless you are solicited. It can come across as rude or disrespectful. This is just something to consider.

[jonahm740]

Just an update guys, the special rules regarding players choosing their own roles have now been added to the first post in this thread as well as the event listing. The price has also been reduced by 5 dollars to an even 50 bucks for 24 hours of non-stop airsoft. The extra 5 bucks was to cover the cost of a patch but we may just be doing a limited run of event patches for the various factions in the same vein as the what the Ruins Raiders did for Operation Broadsword.

The way the specialist roles will work will differ from a traditional event in that there aren't a limited number of slots for specialist roles but EACH PLAYER will have the freedom to choose the role they would like to play in the event and their load out will change according to the role they choose. If you have an interest in running a faction please get in touch with me via PM and we'll go from there. We have a tentative ambassador for one of the factions which leaves three left!

P.S. the uniform requirements have been adjusted as well so that the E.S.A. will have solid OD pants where the I.A.C. will be solid tan bottoms.....SOLID being the key word there .

[jonahm740]

“The first Crucible was one of the most bloody, ugly displays of human cruelty I have ever seen in my life. You have to remember, we were a people on the edge and there was still a large group of the population that wanted to press the red button so the first time we dropped 200 men and women into an area and said go all the rage, frustration and anger felt by the territories and their people was channeled through their 50 representatives. After the Crucible the world could breathe a little easier, like a pot of boiling water that had just about simmered over but was pulled out of the fire before it could. I’ll take seeing the horrors of that day the rest of my life over the alternative but those of us who walked out in the end will always have a special appreciation for the fragile peace the globe holds.” - Ian Keller, UET survivor of Crucible One.

[Hillslam]

Jonah - clarification question:

For the EUT and UCA it states bdu patterns, and mentions a red or blue top. Is that under the bdu or is the blue/red top worn in lieu of a bdu blouse?

Wondering because the wording of the subsequent factions is slightly different.

Thanks in advance.

[Rygar]

FYI, here is the latest, updated map of the field.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ntergridV3.jpg

[jonahm740]

Originally Posted by Hillslam

Jonah - clarification question:

For the EUT and UCA it states bdu patterns, and mentions a red or blue top. Is that under the bdu or is the blue/red top worn in lieu of a bdu blouse?

Wondering because the wording of the subsequent factions is slightly different.

Thanks in advance.

Everyone will be issued armbands regardless but the original idea was EITHER or. For example the UCA forces can wear the listed pattern bottoms with a blue top, or the listed full BDU's with a blue armband. Hopefully that clarifies it a bit . With four separate factions, just as we did at nightfall, armbands will be the major distinguishing feature however if players want to wear a shirt the color of their faction color and forgo a BDU top they may do so as well.

[MGD]

Originally Posted by jonahm740

P.S. the uniform requirements have been adjusted as well so that the E.S.A. will have solid OD pants where the I.A.C. will be solid tan bottoms.....SOLID being the key word there .

So does this mean I cant run a full black uniform for I.A.C.?