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If you would like my opinion, I would suggest Belleville 550 ICB's or the Danner equivalent. On average, I hump a nice 85lbs ruck around 55-65 miles a semester (This doesn't include PTing in them or just wearing them whenever). The guys in my platoon with bates and bates lights usually ruin their boots within one semester. I have racked up a good amount of mileage in my boots(belleville). I have owned the same pair for about three years now and I would highly suggest them. The specwar wannabees around me all swear by the Oakley boots, but they are all show (can't climb a rope Oakley boots). Cost wise, if you have the money, Danner all the way. They might be heavier, but they are ten times the boot. There is a reason when Danner is the Marine Recon and Infantry issued boot. I personally use the Bellevilles now and I love them.
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If it says Rocky on the bottom it's a good boot. Ohio company, fantastic store in Nelsonville, and the most comfortable boots I've ever owned.
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If it says Rocky on the bottom it's a good boot. Ohio company, fantastic store in Nelsonville, and the most comfortable boots I've ever owned.
Yes, but will they blend?
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I don't know, ask Tom Dickson. He told me that you want a Virbram sole if you want good traction.
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If it says Rocky on the bottom it's a good boot. Ohio company, fantastic store in Nelsonville, and the most comfortable boots I've ever owned.

To bad they are made in China, if they were still made in Nelsonville I would buy them, not now.
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To bad they are made in China, if they were still made in Nelsonville I would buy them, not now.
Very true, but what isn't made in freaking china these days?
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Old 11-20-2009, 05:23 PM
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I have a pair of Rocky work boots, because it was the only thing my company allowance would cover completely. Within a week the toe was nearly down to the steel cap. The epoxy boot coating I put on is the only thing holding them together.

I tried on a pair of Converse side zips with steel toe today and have written them off my list of ever buying. It's a tenis show that looks like a boot and the toe seemed way to elevated. I'd kill myself if I ever tried to climb a ladder.

My order will be a Danner 26029.
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I have the Oakley boots and I must say for being an AIT soldier and on my feet every day in them they are truely amazing! they are well worth every penny. ( I got mine for $100). I wore the issue GI boots and they are garbage they started tearing up my feet. and theyre unbeleiveably heavy. But the Oakleys are very light and they feel like tennis shoes. I would recommend them to anyone whose on their feet alot. However the Danner TDX's are also a very very good boot. There are a ton of soldiers here with them too
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These are my boots, army issued altamas, had them for about two years now, and love them. i stepped in some.....well...it SMELLED like cow shxt, but i went up to my knee on one leg and ankle on the other, thought the ground was dry.
I threw them in the coin wash, then dryer, and they came out good as new.
The 'brace' looking thing on them isnt a brace, it The Ultimate Blouser. THEY ROCK (ultimateblouser.com). It wont cut circulation like boot bands will, and stretches better, but wont let your trousers go. I reccomend them and they are removable by the velcro inside, look them up to get directions and such so im not ranting here.


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Old 11-21-2009, 01:02 AM
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@Operator863,

Yeah, those are some worn in Altamas! Still looking good, I see.
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Old 11-21-2009, 03:54 AM
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I did a review on Original Swat brand Coyote Tan Tac Boots. I've gone through 3 games in them this year and so far they are great. But it looks like the milspec altamas have the vote....
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Old 11-21-2009, 01:01 PM
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I tried on a pair of Converse side zips with steel toe today and have written them off my list of ever buying. It's a tenis show that looks like a boot and the toe seemed way to elevated. I'd kill myself if I ever tried to climb a ladder.
Not to be an *** but we're talking about Tac boots, for airsoft purposes. Not steel toes for construction. You'll not often be climbing ladders in an airsoft environment.

Which model did you try?
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Why is this only about airsoft use? Heaven forbid someone want to use something for more than one purpose. As for ladders in airsoft, plenty. Red Dragon has one for sure. I believe the watch tower at Springfield has a ladder to the top level. Zussman also had them, though some restricted, for Irene.

I don't know the exact Converse model number. Steel toe version of http://www.zappos.com/converse-8-rap...oot-desert-tan
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Old 11-21-2009, 07:24 PM
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I'm not saying people can't and don't use them for other purposes, but from your post it sounded like you were planning on using them for a construction job when you tried them on. The other thing is that you 'tried them on' and wrote them off as never buying. Everyone knows you have to break in boots to find out if they're right for you. You may not have liked the fit but remember that if you tried them on in a store, they weren't broken in and therefore hard to judge. Mine fit weird at first as well. After 2 days of play they are just as comfy as my tennis shoes.

You proved my point about ladders. Most fields have one, maybe 2; however, some MOUT facilities that host events do have more ladders. You play their a lot less often. And personally, I've never had an issue climbing ladders in them.
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I personally LOVE the "sport fit" tac boots. Footwear is the second most important piece of equipment you will buy. Footwear determines your endurance level, posture, skeletal support and muscle compensation. This all translates into effectiveness on the battlefield. If you are wearing uncomfortable unsupported footwear your body has to make adjustments to compensate, and that equals fatigue, muscle failure, and pain. If it feels like a tennis shoe, which to most people are very comfortable, what's the problem? What do you think a boot should feel like? Sharp pains in your feet when you put them? No, thanks.
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Why ever wear a helmet when a ballcap is more comfortable? To me, the specific shoe wasn't comfortable. The toe support was too high and was not something that I see changing once broken in. I've backpacked and worn boots daily for years and totaly understand they will change over time but I'm not going to buy the most uncomfortable one I have tried to date and hope it gets better. I don't see why you need to take my opinion on something you have as a personal attack. It works for you, it doesn't for me.
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Old 11-23-2009, 06:55 PM
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I've been through many pairs of boots for airsoft, I have flat feet, so I consider footwear to be the most important gear I own. After trying many different brands and styles, I decided to not spare any cost and purchase a pair of Lowa Desert Seekers. By the reviews I read by people who used them in much harsher conditions than I ever will face playing airsoft, they were the clear winner. I have now used them for 2 years, they are holding up great. Other than being dirty, they are still pretty much like new. And they are the most comfortable boots I have ever worn (for airsoft).

BTW, I also backpack, and what I wear for backpacking is much different than what I would wear for airsofting. I also wear something different if I am doing any sort of construction. I think a "jack of all trades" footwear approach is the wrong way to go.
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It works for you, it doesn't for me.
Duh, onsite... Didn't you know that the human body is the same for every single being? Maybe there's something wrong with you... Defect maybe? Ask your mom if you can claim a warranty, and possible replace them suckers attached to your legs.


As for boots... I really don't like those 4156 Altama's. Mine are beat to ****, but I guess they get the job done. They don't compare to my Bates Durashocks comfort wise and need to be resoled soon. For daily wear, I use Merrell Moab-mid GTX, which are nice and cheap. Every now and then I use it for airsoft. I recently picked up a pair of Rocky S2V's which are made in the USA. Something to do with Berry compliance.

As for those looking to buy boots, you REALLY need to try on the boot before you buy it, if at all possible... One of the most important pieces of gear you will ever need for airsoft is a good pair of boots. Just like with goggles, don't skimp out on them. Otherwise you are going to pay dearly later.


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Those Lowa's are amazing, I would love to have a pair.
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Hey, just to throw out what I ended up getting.

Shelled about $110 out for a pair of Altama Exospeed II's on another site. So far, they're THE best Airsoft investment I've made, barely beating out my Alta kneepads.



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Anyway, compared to the 4156's these are far superior. Opting out the heavier nylon sides, the Exospeed II replaces them with a lighter material, with thin foam padding stitched in in pads. This addresses one of my gripes about the 4156's, where I would smack my ankles and back of my foot on random tidbits in the woods. These make me feel much more protected in them, without adding any bunk. Reinforced toes and heel are present, I don't believe they're fully steel toed though. I don't sense the weight, but the protection is more then enough. Another vast improvement is in ankle support. While they're not titanium and ceramic reinforced ankle breakers, you definitely won't worry about twisting your foot in these.

Speaking of leather, Altama decided to go with a suede leather instead of the more rugged untreated skins of the past. This gives the boot visual appeal, I think they look quite Gucci. They feel better to the touch, and breath more easily due to the thinner material and many, many more vent holes in the sides of the boots. Like most desert boots I've seen, they weather after a little while. After a quick soak in some water, the leather darkened a tinge. The construction is great, I notice a few loose strands of thread on the inside of the boot by the tongue, but that is caused by an actual overstitching of the seams there. All over you see double stitching and reinforced points, especially at the boot loop at the back, which turned out to be a weak point on the original Exospeeds.

Now, before I talk about more of the goodies, I'll speak on a huge negative. Well, not quite a negative, but more of a downside. Since the Exospeeds are a desert boot, they don't play well with water, at ALL. The foam padding dosen't hold water, nor do the thin nylon sides. But the suede soaks it up like mad, and REFUSES to dry. I know that wearing a wet boot helps it dry quicker (With changes in socks, of course ) but after 18 hours now, I can still draw water to the surface if I squeeze the material between my fingers. That's just the outside, good luck walking through a stream in these and hoping your feet stay dry. No luck, bucko. Now, I don't want to really classify this as a downside, as these are DESSERT boots. (Delicious.) They're not meant for hiking through streams.

The laces hold a lot of water too. Strangely, Altama decided to go with a foam-cored fabric-covered lace. I HATE laces like this, but they pulled it off well. As per usual now-a-days, the speedlacing system is fantastic. A little gripe I had though was that the laces were a bit shorter then what most people are normally used to though. No biggie.

I was worried about what type of traction I would get in the woods. From what I've seen, people were raving about their Vibram outer soles. I'm a skeptic at heart, but now I'll never go standard rubber soles again. EVER. These are the first boots I have ever owned that do NOT squeak in hard floors when wet. Why? Because when that boot comes in contact with the linoleum, it dosen't budge a millimeter. Vibram was developed as a high-grade compound that works amazingly wet or dry, developed by a company of the same name. Vibram soles are now found on some of Bellevilles, Danners, and Welco's boots. Every word spoken of these are true, get them.

(And on a lighter note, check these things out. Vibram FiveFingers are some creepy-*** footwear. I really want to try a pair on.)

I normally have an arch problem that is solved with a simple pair of Dr. Scholls inserts. The universal boot arch support fix. So, of course I threw them in when I first got the boots. The feel was wierd, so I took them out. The arch support, the cushioning between the feet was incredible. These are the first boots I've ever worn that properly conform to a human foot. Woo hoo! The sides fit tightly against your ankle, and there isn't much wiggle room besides the toe. This is due to a smaller style of boot that what I've seen, it's a bit hard to pull the boots on and off, even unlaced properly. But once it's on, it stays on. Lacing is actually a bit wierd, because of the fit of the boot I find myself lax on the lace job, leaving a bit of slack in each crossover when tying, unlike my old Altamas where you would have to pull the laces as tight as humanly possible without cutting off bloodflow.

Now, the grand finale. I don't have any sort of scale light enough to weigh these things.. but after asking my roommate to compare, he attests that THEY ARE LIGHTER THEN MY RUNNING SHOES. It's like not wearing a boot at all, they're more like protective sneakers! Weighing what has to be mere ounces, the weight rests on the bulk of your ankles, meaning they feel even lighter as well as keeping that irritating spot on the top of your foot from wearing normal boots from bothering you. I've been wearing these things around the city instead of my sneakers, they are THAT comfortable.

So, after an unnecessarily long ramble about them, I can say I will fully back up the purchase of a pair of ExoSpeed II's for anyone looking for a rugged, yet comfortable Airsofting boot. With it's padded sides, easy lace system, ankle stabilizers, molded toe and heel, and an excellent construction standard, these boots have instantly become the pride of my kit.

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I love these things, I got them from a freinds Husband -- along with other gear-- and there just so comfertable, the problem is I ripped the liner where the heal is.
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I've had the 4156 Altama's since May of 07. Playing about once a month i could tell by the end of last summer they were wearing beyond the comfort level. I've still got em but only because i havent had time to research another boot to replace them with.

Being 2 and a half years old they dont show any signs of wear (IE, sole separation, tears), however as i mentioned, they're no longer comfortable 2/3 of the way through an event.

Onsite, you mentioned looking for a store with oodles of boots. I've got a project on base at Ft Campbell (Clarksville TN) which is only a few mins south of the western KY border. Across from the main gate USCavalry has a store front. They have quite the large selection of boots. For me in cincy its a 5 hour drive. It has the biggest selection i've seen around. I'll be back and forth for 6 or so months so its also convenient for me.
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MacGyver, the first thing I did when I received my Lowa boots was removed the shoe strings it came with and replaced them with 550 para cord. I have had shoe strings break mid day before, it's not a pleasant experience.
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MacGyver, the first thing I did when I received my Lowa boots was removed the shoe strings it came with and replaced them with 550 para cord. I have had shoe strings break mid day before, it's not a pleasant experience.
People occasionally ask me why I carry a few yards of 550 cord in my MOLLE webbing. When they do, I get to explain the funny story where my leather laces broke during a short game. I simply shrugged, ducked behind some cover with some younger players, and showed them how to preform a tactical boot lacing with para cord.
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Hell yeah dude that's pretty funny, "aw ****. Hey watch this kids!"
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