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Blade 03-05-2016 10:29 AM

Web developers and graphic designers required!
 
Can you code a website? Can you design one? Do you have any kind of knowledge on how to produce a website? How to make it secure?

Airsoftohio needs you!

We have been talking about revamping this website but we do not have anybody available to actually build the new site. I am not talking about someone that says they can but never do here. I am talking about someone who will work on it Now and get it done SOON.

While you will have the great privilege to say that you kickstarted the new AO, there is no money involved at this time. So if you offer your help, it will be by good conscience and interest into your community.

SO! Can you help?! Post your name and qualification below, we want to hear about you.

Disclaimer: This thread hasn't been approved by anybody but myself. Just getting a bit tired of talking and no acting and something must get done.

RotaryProphet 03-05-2016 12:42 PM

I'll kick-start this, I suppose.

I'm the one what rescues AO every once in a while when something goes wrong on the server and someone needs to manually login and get things back on track. I'm a sysadmin & back-end developer, so I have absolutely no interest in doing HTML, CSS, or javascript; But I am available to do any of the "hard stuff" -- Back end & database development, system setup, and (perhaps most importantly) system security. It's what I do for a day job.

If we can get someone more interested in front-end development and web design, we could have a pretty sweet setup.

Tiimelord 03-05-2016 12:51 PM

Lol I was just going to recommend you for the job. Either way, I hope this site gets updated and back on track.

hicks 03-05-2016 03:44 PM

I have experience in web design. I'm still learning the Javascript and PHP part, but I guess its better than nothing!

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Originally Posted by RotaryProphet (Post 444406)
I'll kick-start this, I suppose.

I'm the one what rescues AO every once in a while when something goes wrong on the server and someone needs to manually login and get things back on track. I'm a sysadmin & back-end developer, so I have absolutely no interest in doing HTML, CSS, or javascript; But I am available to do any of the "hard stuff" -- Back end & database development, system setup, and (perhaps most importantly) system security. It's what I do for a day job.

If we can get someone more interested in front-end development and web design, we could have a pretty sweet setup.

I just saw now that you don't like frontend, I can do that, I'm pretty well versed in HTML and CSS, and I know someone who can help me in Javascript

fredwordsplat 03-05-2016 06:12 PM

I have experience in Python and Graphic design in Adobe Programs.. But i do not think i would be qualified for the job.

Searcher 03-10-2016 11:47 PM

Need to nail down a list of what needs done before the web tech deluge begins.
I'm chiming in for the roll call.
Web Application Dev. DB to UI.

Fanglor 03-11-2016 01:30 AM

Yay you mean the ohio retailers buttons will be changed again? Like only one of those links is still active :/

Phyrman13 03-11-2016 10:34 PM

for sure need to update the stores links, it would also be nice to see easy access Field listing as well for in-state insured fields.

Blade 03-12-2016 02:34 PM

While it is the way it should be done, we need to see what kind of guys we can get and then see what kind of work can be accomplished. We can talk having a new design as long as we want but if no designer are available, we wasted our time. But then again, website coding is not my thing so maybe it can't be done that way at all. You tell me.

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Originally Posted by Searcher (Post 444432)
Need to nail down a list of what needs done before the web tech deluge begins.
I'm chiming in for the roll call.
Web Application Dev. DB to UI.

Personally speaking, I started with the HR search because we need to figure out who is available and what can be accomplished. For instance, someone that can design, properly code a website, properly build a security system for it, etc. If we can't get one perfect coder to do everything, we need to see who can work with who, etc. We might need to go toward a pre-built website such as http://www.templatemonster.com/ to get something going.

hicks 03-13-2016 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade (Post 444443)
While it is the way it should be done, we need to see what kind of guys we can get and then see what kind of work can be accomplished. We can talk having a new design as long as we want but if no designer are available, we wasted our time. But then again, website coding is not my thing so maybe it can't be done that way at all. You tell me.



Personally speaking, I started with the HR search because we need to figure out who is available and what can be accomplished. For instance, someone that can design, properly code a website, properly build a security system for it, etc. If we can't get one perfect coder to do everything, we need to see who can work with who, etc. We might need to go toward a pre-built website such as http://www.templatemonster.com/ to get something going.

I have a few pre-built designs that can be easily modified if we need. I we do the pre-built, I will not be able to help as I do not have any experience in those and despise the heck out of them.

Phyrman13 03-15-2016 09:29 PM

I can throw something together this week and let you guy preview it and see if its what you wanting. might not be perfect but I think I can put together a decent alternative.

Destroyer 03-17-2016 12:43 AM

Perhaps I missed it in other conversations, but what is the goal here (aside from obviously having a shiny new site)? Are you looking for new forums? Something more akin to Facebook groups? Something mostly static but with support for event advertisement and registration?

Is the goal to cater to the small group of active AO users, or are we hoping that "if we build it, they will come"?

I'm not trying to be a downer here, but depending on what you're hoping to end up with, it could be a lot of work.

I'd like to help out, but I don't think I'll be able to devote the time necessary to take it start to finish and I wouldn't feel right volunteering and then leave the team hanging because I don't have the time.

It would also be good for everyone to list what languages/frameworks they are familiar with. Sure programming is programming and frameworks are a dime a dozen, but no one is going to be as efficient if they're writing new code in an unfamiliar language.

Experience: professional senior C# ASP.NET application developer. Likely relevant experience: C#, SQL, ASP.NET (and a handful of .NET 3rd party libraries), MVC, Javascript, JQuery, Backbone.js, HTML, CSS, Windows Server, IIS. DevOps: git, SVN, Trac, NAnt, TeamCity. I've also done a very small amount of work with Linux, Apache, python.

Phyrman13 03-17-2016 12:44 AM

Just Tinking around on this for an hour or so and came up with this so far. Its still the free Version. If its something we want to pursue I am willing to pay the subscription on it for the time being. Hoping to get sponsors/advertisers eventually to help cover the cost.

http://airsoftohioweb.wix.com/airsoftohio

Flenner 03-17-2016 02:47 PM

Not to be that guy, but what's wrong with this site? There's a few code errors and redirect errors here and there, but this site is easy to navigate and still holds valuable information, along with easily being customizable and available on tapatalk.

Just curious.

-Flenner

SplatterPark 03-17-2016 05:30 PM

Kool.
Need to add SplatterPark to fields and Airsoft Alpha to stores.

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Originally Posted by Phyrman13 (Post 444471)
Just Tinking around on this for an hour or so and came up with this so far. Its still the free Version. If its something we want to pursue I am willing to pay the subscription on it for the time being. Hoping to get sponsors/advertisers eventually to help cover the cost.

http://airsoftohioweb.wix.com/airsoftohio


Phyrman13 03-17-2016 07:22 PM

Got Splatterpark added. I haven't added any store yet, but will make sure alpha is when i do.

Blade 03-18-2016 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Flenner (Post 444481)
Not to be that guy, but what's wrong with this site? There's a few code errors and redirect errors here and there, but this site is easy to navigate and still holds valuable information, along with easily being customizable and available on tapatalk.

Just curious.

-Flenner

...which is exactly why I wanted to know who was available. Then, Wallace can decide if fixing/modifying the actual AO is better than starting from scratch. This website is not super bad, it just needs several features to be changed. The thing we absolutely need to stay away from is getting a "custom" work done and then being stuck with it because the coder/programmer/designer got no more time for it or leave the community.

Phyrman13 03-18-2016 08:26 AM

its why I am trying to do it. I have been blessed in life to where i was able to retire young and make my hobby into my full time career. Airsoft is all I do 24/7.

I haven't been part of the AO community super long but two things have been going on since i have. Everyone wanting changes/updates to the site, and it not happening.

I keep hearing the "theres valuable Info" thing but the vast majority of it is dated info that most people don't care about. The biggest problems i see with this site is truly the lack of ease to find current fields and store via this site. That should be the most important and in your face part of the site and it isn't on this site. I hear it every weekend, I didn't even know you were open here. AO is the first thing to pop up when you search airsoft in OH. which most new player or curious people will do. The most important thing as a community we can do for those 2 groups is immediately get them into a store or to a field. thats how we bring them into the sport and keep them.

I do enjoy reading through old posts sometime, but i am also an old player that remembers alot of the community issues from 10-15 years ago. the vast majority of airsofters now were just or not even born then.

I don't know what the best solution is start new, or refresh but I do know something needs done. as field/store owners we have put way to much time and money into this to not have a viable Hub for CURRENT info for the players.

Sorry for the long post I just am very passionate about airsoft and the community and feel this is an area we are failing especially the new players coming in.

Flenner 03-18-2016 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade (Post 444487)
...which is exactly why I wanted to know who was available. Then, Wallace can decide if fixing/modifying the actual AO is better than starting from scratch. This website is not super bad, it just needs several features to be changed. The thing we absolutely need to stay away from is getting a "custom" work done and then being stuck with it because the coder/programmer/designer got no more time for it or leave the community.

Looks like a couple fields need added onto the site: Such as the links for stores and fields (if they have websites) around Ohio, but I don't see much else as a major problem. I'm sure some colors and backgrounds can be changed, but creating an entire site just doesn't seem like the way to go for me. It costs too much time and too much money.

If I was in the market for building such a site, I would most certainly help, but I unfortunately don't have the time. I can only make suggestions for the usability (which is my main focus on programming)

Phyrman13 03-18-2016 11:32 AM

Don't get me wrong. I would rather this site get fixed but talking about for the past couple YEARS and its not happened.

Destroyer 03-18-2016 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade (Post 444487)
...which is exactly why I wanted to know who was available. Then, Wallace can decide if fixing/modifying the actual AO is better than starting from scratch. This website is not super bad, it just needs several features to be changed. The thing we absolutely need to stay away from is getting a "custom" work done and then being stuck with it because the coder/programmer/designer got no more time for it or leave the community.

Unless you build from a template that has 90% of what you need, the new site will inevitably end up the same way. If you want custom functionality, you're going to need custom code.

Have a look at what Joel Spolsky, an industry respected engineer has to say about rebuilds: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articl...000000069.html

Now, if you're talking about substantially changing AO's function (i.e. making it not a forum), then that's different story.

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Originally Posted by Phyrman13 (Post 444493)
Don't get me wrong. I would rather this site get fixed but talking about for the past couple YEARS and its not happened.

If we don't have the resources to fix it, where are we going to get the resources to build a new one, and then fix all of the issues with that one?

Phyrman13 03-18-2016 06:42 PM

i think to an extent it does need to change. i mean having a Forum is nice and i did put one on the site i mocked up but i think its just as or more important to connect new players with fields, stores, and even teams.


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