OP. Rising City, March 2005

[strikers_blade]

Finally, at the dawn of a new day, we don’t hear any artillery firing. The sound of rifle fire has almost ceased and except for random shots here and there, the landscape is quiet. No one is really sure who started the gunfights, but it seems like every possible faction got involved. Wounded and dead soldiers can be counted by the dozens. Everybody wanted their piece of the land. Unfortunately, the aftermath scattered the precious resources and everyone fears the next battle may be even more devastating. Battle lines have been drawn and bad blood is brewing between all the combatants

Fortunately, UN Forces have been called in and have been asked to monitor the situation and stay neutral. The job won’t be easy. Tropico lost 5 out of 6 village water supplies to Kreiger poison. Tropico will likely want to acquire whatever resources are left, at whatever cost, so they can continue their crusade for liberty.

Due to the "peaceful" approach of the UN Forces, Kreiger decides to deal with the Tropico problem on their own and in their own way. However, Kreiger is in the same situation as Tropico in terms of resources. Most of the Kreiger power plants and manufacturing facilities were destroyed. With resources more limited than ever, Kreiger’s only hope is newly acquired technology (some sources say it could have been stolen from a Russian mafia), that will put an end to the Tropico uprising.

General Secretary of Defense for the UN clearly stipulates that such plans would not be acceptable and all UN forces would be used to prevent such actions. For the moment, the UN still has faith in the morals of Kreiger high command and supports their reconstruction as much as possible.

A secret investigation is in progress regarding the suspected "Russian mafia". A foreign force could represent a real threat to the stability of the country in the future. Interviews have been done with Tribal groups, but nobody really knows anything besides the Russians love illicit magazines and prohibited beverages. As of right now, there are no satellite images and/or no recon intelligence proving the existence of such a group.

[Dougrich]

So, I take that your going to be releaseing scenario in the coming week as well.

[strikers_blade]

Indeed, our scenario should be on the website in the coming week.

[Dougrich]

Looking forward to it.

[Crossfire]

My team will definitely be there for this one.:D

Blade, not to get ahead of ourselves here, but will Rising City be a one day event (get there Friday and play Saturday) or a two day event like BF 1?

Either way, we'll be there.

Long live Kriegers!...(We need to come up with a slogan...)

[Dougrich]

VIVA LA TROPICO DEATH TO THE INFIDELS

[strikers_blade]

crossfire, Aegis will have all details in your private forums on www.teamstrikers.com ;)

[D-Boy]

I cant get the activation code on the teamstrikers.com web page so when is the prospective date?
got to plan ahead.

[strikers_blade]

This is now official, OP. Rising City will be March 26th.

It is time for squad leaders to get register on www.teamstrikers.com so they can get access very soon to the private forums. If you need access, please email me at blade@teamstrikers.com and I will give you access.

[Grease Man]

Spingbreak might be a problem for me, and the rest of iP since most the colleges we are at have springbreak at the same time. I'll try to work around it.

[Lt. Corbin]

Blade, any updates on sniping rules??

[strikers_blade]

All rules will be posted with the event information, which mean very soon :D

[strikers_blade]

Greaseman, when is the spring break starting and ending?

[Crossfire]

Just read the little story/scenario your wrote Blade. Sounds interesting.

Another question though, will this event be an all day one like BF (start around 10am and end at around 6pm. I can't remember if that was the time frame for BF or not). Or will the event be broken down into a couple scenarios where we come back up to the camp-site and then head back into the field for the next game? Just curious about that one.

[Grease Man]

Blade,

OSU/Columbus State's spring break is the week of 21'st which falls in during the OP. I'll ask around to see if anybodys going out of town but it looks like its probably going to be ok for team iP because not many are going to be going out of town.

[strikers_blade]

Greaseman,

Thank you for the intel, that would indeed be perfect to keep the event on the 26th. Matter of fact, after asking and reviewing all details, we will have almost no choices to do it on the 26th :D

Crossifre, the event will be 2 slots of 3 hours. As the light will not be as long as we got at Blind Fury, we have no choice but to cut the event at about 5pm. Also, this is the first event of the year so a lunch break will be offered (unless Oldschool cannot supply the cantine).

note: for those wondering what Crossifre is talking about, the main storyline has been edited in the first post of this thread. Main details will soon be posted on www.airsoftevents.com, we just have some formatting problems :p

[Lt. Corbin]

Oh no easter weekend!! I believe i'll be at church on the 26th.

[Crossfire]

Also, this is the first event of the year so a lunch break will be offered (unless Oldschool cannot supply the cantine).

Blade, so you are saying that there will be a lunch break offered, but if we wish to stay in the field for the full 6 hours we may?

[theblackfox]

Originally posted by Lt. Corbin
Oh no easter weekend!! I believe i'll be at church on the 26th.

god will forgive you.:D

[P90killer]

yes b/c we all believe in god and if we did then i am sure that killing, or pretending to kill, is better than going to church. but wait i am a Catholic, oh well airsoft calls b4 god. :D

[strikers_blade]

Crossfire, this detail will be decided by your commanders, oldschool and the weather :D

sorry for the church issue, if we would have to take all holidays, church practices and vacations, we would never be able to have an event :p

[theblackfox]

exactly my point blade. Atleast some one understands:D

[P90killer]

i really could care less, i know god loves me :p

[john]

I am able to understand and follow the actions of the war between tropicos and kreigers. But i would need more info about the pretext for this particular engagement to get into role. Last time situational information was scarce all we knew was there was an enemy out there and boxes that were important? I don't know why.

In short what is my motivation lol

May i also make on suggestion..rhetorically.. Could the spawn area be a diff place for each team. obvious reasons.

HNIC

[theblackfox]

good maybe you can put the word in for me, tell him fox has been wondering why he stopped writing.:D


So are you guys gonna post the details here too or do i have to stop being lazy and go look myself.

[strikers_blade]

BlackFox, all details will be posted on www.airsoftevents.com , the problem I have right now is formatting the text. In the worst case, I will do everything manually during the night. So sit tight :)

John, what other motivation than shooting other people do you need? :lol:

Ok, here it is: The motivation is that you overrun your opponent with tacticaly and strategically better decisions, leading to a victory of your team.

:p

[Lt. Corbin]

Originally posted by strikers_blade
sorry for the church issue, if we would have to take all holidays, church practices and vacations, we would never be able to have an event :p

Blade, don't worry about it, I just need to persuade (beg) my mom to let me go:)

[Crossfire]

Sorry to get ahead of you Blade;)

The page for Op: Rising City is now up on Airsoft Events:

http://airsoftevents.com/modules/Airsoft_Events/event_details.php?event_num=35')

There aren't any Op details up yet, but you can sign up none the less.

And Blade, will we have to send you the $15 over paypal or just turn it in with waiver(s) at the sign in/chrono desk?

[Dougrich]

is it me or does it say there 5 people signed up and then when you click view it say 42 Kriegers and 33 Tropicos?

[strikers_blade]

CrossFire/Dougrich,

It is part of the problem I have :D
So let me work on it. One thing is sure, registration was supposed to start on February 1st and end up March 1st but if you guys are already registering, no problem at all.....

[Dougrich]

aww, no harm done.

[Crossfire]

My apologies for throwing off you 'schedule' Blade, we all know how you have to stick to those...;)

I was also wondering why there were 70 odd players on the top of the page and only 5 signed up.

[Dougrich]

hey, Blade whose the comander for the Tropicos and Kriegers?

[john]

Now That's more like it. Looks like i got a little ahead of you as well.

I have a pretty good idea what squad would work well as the UN.....

So this means:

Tropicos Must

Prevent the secret weapon from being used
reveal kreiger plans to the UN
reveal the russians to the UN
Gain good standing with the villagers
Gain good standing with the UN

UN Must

Provide aid to the villages
Try to maintain the peace at the village locations
Keep an eye on both sides
Investigate reports of russian and weapons of mass destruction

Kreigers Must

defend what's left of their resources (power plants, farms, supply lines)
Keep up talks with the russians without the UN finding out
Launch weapon of mass destruction
take back the village/farm areas for the much needed resources.
Stay on the good side of the UN before the US gets involved.

Russians
Must not let the Un know they have been providing arms
I bet the russians are supplying the weapon of destruction

Somehow persuade the UN to leave (their presence is not welcome i imagine
Drink lots of vodka
Prevent an all out war with america /UN

By the way if this fictional country was located in a certain part of the world? where would it be?

That's what i call a full days work.

Does this about sum it up Blade? I know giving a direct answer might spoil some of the fun for others.

HNIC
UNRRF baby babay

[john]

Could the russians and the Un monitor a radio channel not used for team communications. that way either the tropicos or kreigers could make contact.

This way we could radio them for secret meatings and arrange deals. cool part is that the other team may or may not be listening. And it may or may not be a bogus call/ ambush.

HNIC

[Dougrich]

I like the idea of killing ruskies or negoiting with the ruskies. I think John's on to something here.

[strikers_blade]

Sorry John but you are completely off the track :D and the only way to know what will happen is by coming to the event....

;)

[Puma]

Blade,
I just registered for the event and wanted to let you know that whatever team is in need of players I can jump into. I wasn't at the first one, so I will need to be filled in on the situation, but I just wanted you to know. So go ahead and mess with my team as you need too.

[strikers_blade]

Puma, as you will use Woodland, you have been selected on Kreigers.

[Puma]

Roger that Blade, thanks for letting me know so quickly.

[strikers_blade]

No problem Puma ;)

Oh while we are there, Registration will start February 1st and will end up March 1st. If you do not register by then, it will be too late to do so. Reason for this is we would like to give all teams information on March 1st and at this point, we will need to make sure the teams are set.

Also, a new waiver is coming for 2005. It will be very different than what you are used too, so stay tuned, we will give more details later on.

[Violator]

Easter weekend? Sorry, won't be able to make it.

[P90killer]

clarification on power and any age limits for sniping. as of now there are no limits to the age u have to be for a sniper posted on airsoftevents. so blade what i would like to know if that is going to change

[strikers_blade]

P90Killer,

All rules will be very clear by February 1st, don't worry. I finally decided to do everything manually so this is why it is taking longer :(

[Dougrich]

Hey Blade, I asume there will be strikers posing as Russain and UN, correct?

[strikers_blade]

If I tell you, I will have to kill you :D

[Crossfire]

Uh-Oh, he's threatening us. He must be a Russian:rolleyes:

[Dougrich]

Thems fightin words Blade!:D :rolleyes:

[Crossfire]

Blade, I just noticed that on the event page it says the date is April 26. Is that just a glitch? Just making sure, didn't want to drive all the way down there and be a month early.

[strikers_blade]

Error fixed.

Thank you CrossFire.

[Knect87]

Two questions about registering. Are the "Civilians" the same as the "Villagers" that is, the third party team? Also, how do I get my team (Team Scrub) to appear on the list of teams to choose from?

Thanks.

[strikers_blade]

Knect, civilians just mean you will be there as a witness of this horrible war (basically not carrying weapon in the field). there is always people asking if they could come to the event just to watch so this is why the civilian role is there.

As far as your team, try this;
http://www.airsoftevents.com/modules.php?name=Team_Registration&file=index&func=registernew

[P90killer]

RULES ;) :D

[MC51ED]

Blade, didnt you say that the rules would be posted by the first of February? Just thought i would ask.

[Glaeken]

Folks,
Don't forget to check the link below for any additions ;) .


http://airsoftevents.com/modules/Airsoft_Events/event_details.php?event_num=35

[strikers_blade]

MC51ED,

I already posted the most important stuff such as MED and FPS but I indeed have to add more ROE, I would guess another week or so should be good enough. One thing is sure, one week before end of registration (March 1st), all rules will be there.

[Crossfire]

I know its a little early to ask Blade, but will opposing teams have seperate private forums before the event? The ones you had before BF were very helpful.

[stewb_10]

what would you guys say is the age range of people coming to this event. my mom is scared of yall, so is there an email where she can ask questions? lol

oh yea and blade, will there be rentals?

[strikers_blade]

CrossFire, there will be private forums available, even if they were used that much in previous events. I guess we need to find out if we want those forums on teamstrikers.com or airsoftevents.com.....think, think, think....


Stew, The average age should be about 19yrs old.

[Rabbit Fire]

Howdy to my brother in arms on Tropicos
Hello to my respected opponents on Krieger and dobriyvecheer to my Russian friends

It's Dean here from Ulfhedinn (Us chi-town boys) and i thought i should drop in and say hey to all of you. Im sad to say Ulfhedinn will be off fighting in the south for this game and we wont be able to attend. As much as we love our dear Tropico employer our services were purchased by another entity this time around ; ) Anyways, I always love driving out there and fighting along and against you Ohio boys so i think it only fair to inform you of our abscence. Fear not though! Ulfhedinn will return! Bigger! Brighter! and with snacks!

See ya all soon and I cant wait for BF:2

Ronin Fox/Rabbit fire/Dean

[stewb_10]

what about rentals?

[Lt. Corbin]

Well Blade, since me and P90Killer are the only people who have signed up to be snipers on airsoft events and we are the first, can we have a "for sure" sniper spot?:D So I don't have to worry about anymore.

[solution_zero]

This will be my first AO event, and I'm really looking forward to it. Just a few quick questions...

1. For "standard" weapons, is the limit 600 rds? "its an AO rule and I was wondering if its the same in this event."

2. Will smoke bombs be allowed?

Thanks:D

[notabob]

yeah blade, are you still gonna be using the milsim mag rules? fill us in on that subject too when you get a chance.

[stewb_10]

whoa sry i tried to edit my post and i guess it reentered it with the edit. whoever is the mod can delete this post. see the below post.
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[stewb_10]

so if i may summarize, we are wondering about

1)rentals
2) sniper assignments
3)mag limits/ milsim rules
4)somke bombs

[Crossfire]

I wouldnt know about # 1 and 2, but I would imagine that the ammo limit will be 300 rds with standard or low caps only. I limit for BF was 300 rds, so I would think that Rising City would be the same.

As for smoke grenades, they are allowed, but they must be cold smoke. They CANNOT have a fuse that you need to light with matches or a lighter because of risks of forest fires and such. Blade/Combat Depot will usually have the cold smoke grenades for sale before the game starts. All you have to do is find Blade and buy some off of him.

solution_zero, just make sure that you know all the rules of event and the game in general, and follow them the best you can. Play fair and have fun, and you shouldn't be dissappointed. Like I have stated, the Strikers never seem to dissappoint.

[solution_zero]

Sounds great to me. Thanks for all the info!
See you all there.:D

[strikers_blade]

Ok, to answer all questions.

1)rentals
As of now, there will be no rental availables. Unless a retailer step up to offer it, it is not planned to be available.

2) sniper assignments
I cannot confirm any sniper spots until the registration date close (March 1st).

3)mag limits/ milsim rules
I will soon post more details in the event information page on www.airsoftevents.com but this event will use strict mag and ammo capabilities. First off, nobody will be allowed to bring their own bbs in the field. Only way to be resupplied will be either at specific locations such as HQ or ammo depot or by air drop. As far as mags, as stated before, high caps will not be allowed. There will be no limitation on 30rds mags and 10 mag max for reg mags.

4)smoke bombs
They will be authorized. www.combatdepot.com will definately have them for sale.

[notabob]

thanks blade. im glad i bought those STAR 30rnd mags...

[solution_zero]

Thanks again for the info.

[Dougrich]

Blade, what about those new waviers you were talking about?

[stewb_10]

if anyone has an AEG w/battery, mags etc. PM me. id be willing to pay to use it (as long as my parents agree). if i am in fact going (looks ok just not totally sure, otherwise ill have to go wit my GBB an d extra clips (which means i probly won go cuz ill get pwned).

btw- are 50rd extended mags for GBBs considered hi-caps, or do they fall under standard mag rules, limit 10, or unlimited because extended mags exist in real steel.

[strikers_blade]

Originally posted by Dougrich
Blade, what about those new waviers you were talking about?

We are actually waiting the final waiver form from our lawyer, so it should not take too long.


are 50rd extended mags for GBBs considered hi-caps
Those mags will be allowed as regular. Although, the GBB rule apply, which mean no more than 2 spare mags. We certainly do not want someone running with an AEG with 10 mags and a G18 with 10 50rds mags.


I don't own the gun yet so if it couldn't be used due to no std mags available that's fine, just please let me know so I don't get it
I certainly don't want you to pass on a good deal but the question I have is why not just using the 68rds mags??

[P90killer]

sr25 meaning a regular .308 bullet. vs the tm/ca stand 68 rd. modeled from the .223 sr25 and sr15 are 2 different guns

[stewb_10]

onsite, check your PM box

[stewb_10]

ok, its looking like onsite is selling his gun before the event. does anyone else have an extra AEG?

[john]

Blade,

I don't think eliminating high caps all together is crucial. You could just as easily distinguish sides now by mp5 vs m16. I have 5 guns 3 of which i wouldn't be able to use if we were to go all low and standard. Not a problem but i lend those guns to new comers and friends. Plus i like them. I am not buying enough magazines to purchase another gun per gun i currently own. High caps should be incorporated intelligently until stars are offered universally.

1 high cap a piece 300 rd load out

10 reg 68 = 680 definately

The high cap has a disadvantage.

They may still reload and go single shot to count rounds.

In terms of realism a 680 rd load out isn't realistic

neither is getting standards for a g3 sg1/ sig 552 / famas plus my m16 and m4

Don't kill the light support weapons what did they ever do to you. Don't get me wrong i like the idea of reloading and plan on getting stars for my m16 variants. But i don't find 68 round mags all that real either so i will wait on the other guns.

I was also just surprised that you changed this so late in the game and am irritated cause i can't go now.

Sgt. H.N.I.C. The Real UN Russian spies

[CAR15A2]

Blade announced the magazine limits last year, in November I think, so that is not a last minute change.

680 rounds is actually quite realistic, unless you equate BBs and real ammo on a one to one ratio, which is ludicrous. An average rifleman can kill someone with one round at 300 yards. At 100 feet it often takes several BBs to hit someone with an airsoft rifle.

I consider 3 BBs = 1 5.56 mm to be a reasonable ratio. that makes 680 BBs equivalent to 8 M16 mags with 28 rounds in each. Even if you make it a 2:1 ratio thats 12 mags with 28 rounds each. These are not unusual loadouts in the real world, where soldiers carry as much ammo as they can get ahold of.

[stewb_10]

very nice informed answer CAR15A2... i never would have thought about it in terms of bbs : bullets. i agree completely.

[strikers_blade]

John,

I know how you feel but the further we will go into milsim, the more drastic decisions will have to be taken. I noticed Foxtrot's post about how we play milsim and most of what he is saying have already been discussed within the Strikers event organizers. Many things was left aside because of either legal issues or because players were not ready for them. Now that many more organizers are coming out with great milsim event, we do think we can now go forward with them, meaning it will not please everyone and for us, that will probably means less players attending. We decided for 2005 that Strikers would either suceed with higher standards or break for lack of support.

But I surely hope you will find the way to adjust to our systems ;)

[john]

Nato rounds to bb conversion well informed by your imagination. Always the flamers who miss the main point. Could highcaps be aloud or was blade going for the changing magazine effect? That was what i wanted to know.

You know how i stand on milism blade. And i am well informed about the talks last year. I just didn't expect it after reading the rules already that there were going to be changes. Like i said i love the idea of changing magazines. I am glad you are taking a step forward and not worrying about head count. I just won't spend the money on standards is all. And our team has a lot of fresh meat this year. So i wanted a definate as to whether springfeild events would be out for me and mine this year. Instead of butting in and trying to look super cool by describing the depths of how bbs make poor 5.56 rounds you could have let me get my question answered and followed the forum rules car,stewb. I was simply trying to complain while offering a solution.

Thanks for the clarify Blade I will try to make it down to support the the changes. I was just looking forward to bringing the noobies down for BF and gettin to see 'em $h!% themselves.

Will all the games on the schedule be ammo restricted? And how about light support weapons will there be any?

H.N.I.C.

[AlphaSix]

Actually, there is a good discussion lurking in these questions John posted. If players have AEG's that aren't as commonly supported with low-caps, or even mid-caps, it presents an honest problem.

John, one of the things that I think Blade and some others are hoping to get away from would be the insane arguments made on AO a couple years ago from players that had 2-3 AEG's, and hundreds of dollars worth of tactical gear start moaning about low caps costing too much money, and that they couldn't afford to go the "milsim route"
I'm not suggesting thats what you are doing, because obviously you've got some valid concerns. To make this even more confused, I'd even go as far as to question the idea of creating a template for squad sizes, and roles within squads, but I'll save that for another thread.

Right now, what is the answer for the player that owns a FAMAS? or a G3-based AEG? When you can plunk down $50 and buy 10 STAR mags and be done, or have to spend more and be stuck with two standard cap mags for such guns, it doesn't seem like such a good trade-off..

(I'm not being the devil's advocate here, I own Colts and have bought a couple cases of STAR mags, I'm just interested in how other players, with less-supported AEG's can still be included in these new format games.)

[strikers_blade]

It is indeed true that many guns do not have access to cheap mags as of now. Although, it has been proved in the past that if we do not take active measure to actually start pushing for the low cap ideas, people will just keep going with the cheapest and biggest mags available and then, when the time will come where mags will be available, they will say it is too late because they invested into 5 high caps already.

So yes, it sucks but at the same time, you can get about 4-5 reg mags for 100$, which is about what we all spend on a weekend party ;)

As far as light support weapon, we have used them in the past because there was not enough heavy weapon in the field, not because of budget restrictions. So again, if there is not heavy weapon available, we will use light support weapon but do not base your PLANS around the fact that we might ask you to be light support weapon.

I remember asking some guys if they would mind going with 30rds mags and they answered "why going 30rds if others can use high cap, it would be a disadvantage for us". So I hope you know what I mean, for some, the step will be more expensive than for others, although, we will all benefit equally from the result.....I hope.

[MC51ED]

Blade, i understand what you are saying in that you dont want some people using 30rd mags and some using highcaps, but i think alphasix has a valid point. I own an mc51 and have a highcap. Sadly i cannot afford to put 100 dollars into your hands and get 4 mags for my gun. I dont even see what the point would be for me. I can get 1 standard mag for 26-27 dollars and one highcap for 32-35 dollars. I hardly even see what the point would be for me to get the standards when i can get 400 more rounds. Its just that after you buy a gun, a vest, and all of the other things you need to play then its hard to afford extra mags when i cant get 10 for 50 bucks.

[CAR15A2]

John,

In what way, exactly, did I flame you? You made two assertions that could not be supported by the facts. If you don't want people to respond to your posts, why are you posting on a public forum?

1. you claimed that Blade changed the mag limits at the last minute.

Not true, he announced it several months ago.

2. you said a 680 round loadout was unrealistic.

again not true as I explained in my post.

Your suggestion of allowing one high cap or many standards is something that I personally suggested to Blade in these forums about a year ago. Blade chose to go another way. Its his event, so he gets to make that choice.

If anyone is flaming here, it is you John.

[solution_zero]

Does anyone know where to find any pics of the field, if there are any? Thanks.

[notabob]

Originally posted by solution_zero
Does anyone know where to find any pics of the field, if there are any? Thanks.

http://www.ez-co.com/Album.asp?Folder=A20040904
http://www.ez-co.com/Album.asp?Folder=A20040410
http://www.ez-co.com/Album.asp?Folder=A20031109
http://www.ez-co.com/Album.asp?Folder=A20030802

there also may be a fewe in the gallery, but these are much higher quality pictures.

[Dougrich]

Hey Blade few questions:
1- Earlier people were talking about forums like that seen before Blind fury. What's the possbility of putting them on airsoftevents or teamstrikers forums in the next 3 to 4 weeks?
2- Well maps of the playing field be given to us at the event or will there be some up on teamstrikers site soon?
3-If weather provideing will it be possible to come and camp that Friday?
4-These event is only saturday and they'll be absolutely nothing on Sunday right?

People Blade informed of this change in mag limits back November, so there's no reason to complain about it now. I do feel bad that this does leave out Famas and G3 based airsofters thus I propose that they be allowed to 100 to 120 mid caps and only 2 of them, please don't bite my head off for this it's just my little idea, so we can include all, but it's up to the organizers.

[solution_zero]

Thanks for the pics NotaBob.

[strikers_blade]

Ok, for those questionning since when I approached the 30rds vs reg mags subject, here is the link;
http://www.airsoftohio.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6158&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

Now regarding the whole "milsim way" we are doing it, when we decided to go forward, the idea was honestly about to get everybody involved in it. We honestly thought that we would loose 50-75% of the players because of those restrictions but the remaining 25% would be much more motivated and we could start this milsim with a stronger base than we will ever do with AO players.

So yes MC51ED, why should you go with reg mags when you can get more bbs out of an high cap? because this is part of the milsim aspect we want to build. Why not using Cmag on all guns then? it's only 4700 more bbs for about 100$ more. You got at least 5 months to get reg mags, even Christmas should have help if needed.

Anyway, that is all for the mags, I think the warning was sent long time enough and if you guys do not agree with it, you can always wait until we find out we screwed up about the mag thing or you simple avoid ourv events. People keep saying they enjoyed what we did so far so we will keep moving forward ;)

Before stopping, I have to admit that 2005 will probably be costly for us since we will be even stricter but hey, lot of people told us that the day where we were only 25 players in the field were far away and they missed them. Maybe doing what we are doing right now will bring a higher level in the field, with more serious and dedicated than ever ?!?!? Who knows....

[john]

"Standard and low cap magazines?
You folks probably saw it coming
I'd like to know how many of you would like to play with standard mags and 30rds magazine during an event? No mid-cap or high cap would be authorized at all."

Seems the thread is merely a vote not a definitive. And never seems to finish.

See i have five guns so i can bring people with me. But if you had a $5.00 a magazine rental at the event you could easily make your money on the magazines this season. $20 would get you 4 standards. that is like having 8 lowcaps, not bad. After this season you would have a bunch of magazines that payed for themselves. You could give people a stamp card so the fifth time they rent they keep. Plus i am sure some people will lose them and have to buy them anyway.

I didn't mind the magazine rules at all i just mind that there is no alternative for allot of people who love milism but aren't rich. I have an m4 and an m16a3 so i am fine to come. This isn't about me.

When approaching sponsors you can also just ask for magazines and pistols. Because swapping mags lets you use that mac11 on your thigh(in my case)


Like i said I'll try to come down but i don't really want to without the whole team.

HNIC

[stewb_10]

dang that sounds like a good idea, however, youd have to get an idea of how many mags you would need and order in bulk ahead of time i mean, you cant buy them in 10 packs like star magazines. what do you mean 5th time you rent? you mean 5th mag or 5th game? and if it is 5th game then whats to keep sombody from renting 20 or 30 the 5th game to get waay discounted prices?

i think its a good basis of an idea, but it needs some fine tuning.

maybe you use star magazines and rent them for $1-2. it would be easier to get them in bulk. however, any one who dosent own a M16 varient, MP5 series, or AK will be pissed at you. maybe the answer is that you buy stars for the guns you can, and buy standards for other guns, and rent them at different prices. this will however be less effecient and youll still have some bulk ordering problems, however people will be happy. id say to wiegh your pros and cons blade, great idea, but maybe its to hard. or maybe, you just dont try to please everybody and get stars, which is what id do...

[notabob]

Originally posted by stewb_10
dang that sounds like a good idea, however, youd have to get an idea of how many mags you would need and order in bulk ahead of time i mean, you cant buy them in 10 packs like star magazines. what do you mean 5th time you rent? you mean 5th mag or 5th game? and if it is 5th game then whats to keep sombody from renting 20 or 30 the 5th game to get waay discounted prices?

i think its a good basis of an idea, but it needs some fine tuning.

maybe you use star magazines and rent them for $1-2. it would be easier to get them in bulk. however, any one who dosent own a M16 varient, MP5 series, or AK will be pissed at you. maybe the answer is that you buy stars for the guns you can, and buy standards for other guns, and rent them at different prices. this will however be less effecient and youll still have some bulk ordering problems, however people will be happy. id say to wiegh your pros and cons blade, great idea, but maybe its to hard. or maybe, you just dont try to please everybody and get stars, which is what id do...

or, maybe you could learn to not double post and that he was referring to standard mags, not STAR mags...and its a rather stupid idea anyways because half of them would end up stolen.

[Dougrich]

Originally posted by notabob
half of them would end up stolen.

I agree with that. It would be a totally insane idea.

[stewb_10]

Originally posted by notabob
or, maybe you could learn to not double post and that he was referring to standard mags, not STAR mags...and its a rather stupid idea anyways because half of them would end up stolen.

ummm, accually i tried to delete the post and it didnt go and second thats why you keep track of how many were rented and returned, blade aint stupid. third, you guys would be the only one stealing them, i thought we were a community, why would you do that to somebody in the airsoft community.. fourth, no ideas are stupid, maybe you are the only one here thats stupid... people like you piss me off so bad its unimaginable... i dont apreciate flaming others for their posts no matter who it is, or who you are... you really should think about others before you post again.. it doesnt matter whether its a good idea or not, maybe its a bad idea, so what that doesnt give you permission to act like your better than me..

EDIT: sry i had to edit out some choice phrases and words now that im a lil less POed

[AlphaSix]

Originally posted by Dougrich
I agree with that. It would be a totally insane idea.

Or you could require a deposit for the magazines, or hold a drivers license.

So far, the mag rental idea has been the only suggestion for getting people on the field that don't otherwise have the required mags.

[stewb_10]

thank you for an intelligent answer alphasix, instead of flaming someone, for or aginast it doesnt matter make a post, just dont show disrepstect for others.

EDIT: look notabob, i dont want you mad at me, i just get upset at disrespect for others. If you think that was bad you should see what i said to this guy on airsoft core when he told a guy with like 2500 posts that his idea was stupidt then called me a choice name(wasnt pretty). im just saying your post could have been this:

hey stewb look out for that double post. thats not a good idea the mags would get stolen i think. that would be a bad thing.

[CAR15A2]

The rental idea may or may not be a good idea, but what is definately NOT a good idea is to tell someone else ( Blade in this case) what he should do with his business. If you think its a good idea, do it yourself or get together with some others who also think its a good idea and pool your resourses and start a small business renting magazines.

Just don't expect Blade (or anyone else) to put their money where your mouth is.

[Enoch247]

I've been following this thread since it's beginning, and one thing has greatly distressed me very early on. "What is that?" you may ask. Well I'll tell you. The lack of respect...

I have a lot of respect for Blade and others who are constantly hosting games for our airsoft community. They put in a lot of time, effort, and money so that we can all come out and have a blast. It is because of this respect that when Blade announced his new rules for his event, I had to ask myself (I to used to be a Hi-Caper until very recently) "Self how badly do I want to go to this event? And self is it worth it to me to spend the extra money on new mags?" My answers were "Very much, and Yes." So I did what had to be done. I did not tell Blade he should allow me to use my Hi-Cap. I did not say he was being unfair. I did not tell him he should be ashamed of himself for inconveniencing me so much.

My point is this: I understand your concerns everyone, and I am not saying that you are in the wrong for posting them. But it is clear that this is the path Blade has chosen for his event and he does not intend to change his mind, be he right or wrong. As such, give it up. It is not like he is the only game hoster in the world, and there will be plenty of other games where Hi-Caps are allowed.

Let us please respect the decisions that have been made, and move on in our lives, rather than kid ourselves into thinking that if we complain long enough and loud enough, Blade will suddenly change his mind. If you would like to attend Blades future events then save up for the required equipment. If you don't want to play by his rules, that is okay too, just don't expect him to change those rules.

I hope I've not offended anyone in my post. These are simply my humble thoughts on the matter.

Enoch of the 97th

[strikers_blade]

Thanks CAR15A2 and Enoch247 for these posts. While I do agree with what you said, I also have to admit that I listen other players more than you would think :D . You see, if our team put dozen of hours into an event preparation, you certainly don't want to get only few players.

Although, this new rule mag is there to stay, until players really do not want to hear about it anymore. If we want to go ahead with such rules (and more to come), it's because we finally decided to go ahead with something that many players always wanted but never went ahead with it. We read other communities forum, read other plaers in OH that want more than what we always got, listen to my teammates and listen to those that said that my project "techwar" would be nice (something I started talking about 2 years ago).

Yes, having such rules will create a division between those able to afford such gaming and those that cannot. Although (and as I always said), those rules are, as milsim, not for everyone. We increase the requirement for such rules to get more dedicated players. We want players that left airsoft because other players were not serious enough. We want players that would prefer to play rather than go on the party the night before and not being able to play the next day. We want players that would rather be with us than with their girlfriend (well...maybe not at that point :D ), matter of fact, we want players that do not take airsoft as a last resort activity and only by increasing rules like this one, we will see who REALLY want to play airsoft/milsim.

John, I fully respect you for getting 6 guns so your friends can play but at one point, you cannot sponsor them for ever. I saw so many players doing it to finally realize that they would have to support their friend forever because those same friends would never invest into airsoft. In airsoft, buidling a team on credit has never worked....yet.

But anyway, without changing subject, Strikers/I will not change our mind regarding this rule until we really see this interest in OH for such rules and we will certainly not see it through the forums since most serious players usually do not even read the forums ;)

note: this tendancy of "standard mag only" event is not new and many teams around the country pledge by it for years now, we are just finally trying something that will sooner or later, reach us.

[stewb_10]

1) its just an idea

2) if blade wants to listen he will or he wont, i dont really care.

3) my post was simply taking an idea that probly wouldnt work too well and expanding on it intsaed of shooting it down like some of you.

4) most people dont have the recources that blade has, therefore it would be much harder for us then for him, so just getting a group of freinds together wont cut it.

5) and finally, the whole idea of the thing is to get people on the feild that otherwise wouldnt be able to play, and the fact that other people are showing disrespect to johns idea, whatever it is, distresses ME. how bout you come up with an idea to get more people on the field. when you do, then you can talk. until then, shut your mouth, open your mind, and show respect for others. thats all i ask.

i agree with you blade that you want people who really love the sport. but i love it, i do SOMTHING related to airsoft everyday, and play EVERY weekend in the woods with my friends. however, my parents wont let me spend my money on a AEG. does that mean i dont love the game? no. it means "i dont have the funds."

[john]

I know some would think i wanted to discard the rule. I really want smaller magazines to be incorporated. I even called a client of mine who does injection molding to find out how cheaply it could be done. Sorry but i can't afford it.

I want your event to be greatly successful blade. I was disappointed at the last event being more shoot em up than milism. This is a welcomed change for me. But don't forget as the most successful organizer in ohio everyone looks to you and looks forward to your events every year.. every year... I knew that before my first aeg came in the mail. And as far as hosting my own events.. Well it's something i work on.

I don't meen to disrupt this forum. And i forget that i leave posts thinking that some things would be implied. Like leaving your drivers license for rentals. I forget that i must type a full report in the scientific method before posting on AO to avoid being shot down. I started making suggestions because it was improbable for me to attend with the whole team. I didn't want to start anything.

Now let's talk about medic roles or something else so that this forum can move. Blade i heard you got some new cards. Will they be at the next event or will we need to wait?

JOHN

[notabob]

Originally posted by notabob
or, maybe you could learn to not double post and that he was referring to standard mags, not STAR mags...and its a rather stupid idea anyways because half of them would end up stolen.

stewb_10, over the past few weeks i have seen multiple times that you have double posted and eventually things like that wear on me. second, i have seen multiple times where you have thrown your oppinion in on things where it wasnt asked for. standard mags cost about $30 a piece, not $5 like you said in that post that i responded to. blade has done enough for us to try to make the mag changes reasonable. if you guys would have made your move late last year, you could have gotten a box of 10 STAR mags for $36 and then picked them up at an event (like i did). to ask him to front even more money to rent out magazines is, IMO, disrespectful to him. if you want to put up a few hundred $$ and rent out standard mags then have at it. use your own ideas and dont just throw things out there for someone else to do.

so lets recap:

a. dont double post
b. dont give us your oppinion on things you know nothing about
c. realize that airsoft costs money and dont expect people to rent everything to you.

[CAR15A2]

Stewb and John

No one is disrespecting anybody or anyones ideas, we are responding to your posts on a public forum. In fact, TAC will soon announce an event that allows limited use of high-caps, but encourages standards and Stars that is almost identical to John's mag restriction suggestion. As I said, I've posted on this matter several times over the last year or so.

Stewb- If the rental business isn't feasible for you, why do you think it will be profitable for someone else? Or do you think someone with more resources should subsidize your hobby? Lots of successful small businesses have been started by teenage entrepreneurs with little or no capital.

Blade- Sorry if it sounded like I was speaking for you, that was not my intention. Of course you listen to your customer base for suggestions, like any good businessman does. My comment was meant to address the tendency of some people to say "heres's my idea- you do it" instead of putting there own time and money into it.

[stewb_10]

OH NO, AN ACIDENTAL DOUBLE POST, NOTABOB IS GONNA FLAME YOU AND CALL YOU A NOOB!!! anyway, i hear your concerns. however, once agian my post was simply improving on an idea that i didnt think would totally fly over smoothly. i figured other people would throw in thier 2 cents and we could develop somthing that blade might want to try, since he was catching a bunch of flak from people. i was expanding. i dont know why people are acting like its a horrible idea. if we could make it work, then it would be good. by the way notabob, i dont need any "rental mags" im good. you can just shut up if you have nothing to add positively to the conversation. B. and C. up there were direct personal attacks. once again ill hold my tongue on this public forum, but if you attack me agian i will tell you what i think. i have the money, my parents wont let me spend it, i have a job.

by the way, i dont think ill be attending this event anyway, changed my mid. if this is a sampling of how people are going to be at milsim events, i think ill be staying clear. ill see whoever is going at the charity event. no offense to blade, hes done a great job. i might think about coming to the one in april.

[john]

The reason i care. by john perkins

Current price for new airsofter to begin minimal play.

Thermal Goggles $50
BDUs $60
Gun and Batt $259.00 sig 552 + $15.00
magazine free with purchase
Boots $50

434.00

add 10 standards at 20

634.00

10 stars for what 30 bucks

that means it is either 30% cheaper to buy an m4 or mp5 or that it is 30% more expensive to play airsoft with diff weapons. Or that is if you want to go to an event.

I know people that buy cars for 634 dollars.

Yes yes yes i can go to another event i can host my own i plan to. But what ever blade says goes as we can see on this forum and not just for springfield. He should be proud that he sets a standard. But i am concerned It might hurt part of the sport that i am proud of. The part where if i want to call myself the UN I can carry a g3 or a famas and feel and look the part. I can pick a weapon i have confidence in and has a uniquie ability. this was a great part of role play. So if you don't have a m4 or m16 or mp5 i am sorry i went to bat for you. No BF this year.


AND I THOUGHT IT WAS DISRESPECTFUL THAT PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEND 30 PERCENT MORE THIS YEAR ALONE BUT DO SPEND 40 DOLLARS EVERY YEAR TO COME TO YOUR EVENTS(MORE THAN ONE) WERE NOT CONSIDERED. Because they support milism.

not shouting i am emphasizing.

Will prisoners be taken at this event?

JOHN

[Dougrich]

John seriously that's a crazy figuire! Man I need a job!

Prisoners that would be awesome.

Hey Blade few questions:
1- Earlier people were talking about forums like that seen before Blind fury. What's the possbility of putting them on airsoftevents or teamstrikers forums in the next couple weeks or is to late?
2- Will maps of the playing field be given to us at the event or will there be some up on teamstrikers site soon?
3-If weather provideing will it be possible to come and camp that Friday?

[strikers_blade]

LOL, you guys are honestly driving me crazy. Here are few answers to so many questions;

1. OP. Rising City is not Blind Fury 2. So while we have mag restrictions for that event, nothing says we will not be lighter for BF2.

2. I would like to see more dedicated players, not just those having to sell their sandwich at school to be able to play. I know it does sound harsh but want to see the higher level of players coming up.

3. Don't worry, not all Strikers event will be so restrictive.

4. All forums will be available when the time will come. Most likely after the registration will close (for Op. Rising City, that means March 1st).

5. Maps will be given to Commanders and squad leaders, so they can redistribute them to each players.

6. If weather permit, players will be authorized to camp on site.

7. Not all events are 40$. Matter of fact, Blind fury should be the only one that expensive, but also giving more than other events.

8. CAR15A2, don't worry, I did not take any offences in your post.

9. Prisoners might be part of the scenario, we just can' ttalk about it for now.

10. The new medic cards will be given to the "advanced medic", which are medic role player but as the name says, advanced. Being said, they will be able to accomplish more but they will also have to carry more equipment. This new system will be on trial for Rising City.

11. Renting mags would be an option but it would end up more troublesome than beneficial.

:)

[Cobra Commander]

OK Blade, just two questions from me:
1) I thought I read earlier that we bring our own magazines, but not our own ammo? Is that why this is as expensive as it is? Maybe I'm smoking too much crack and I didn't read it right...but I assume ammo is to be given at supply points?
2) About the prisoner thing, I know it was discussed in other threads, but how's that going to work as far as hidden weapons. I know there was some discussion about telling the person that you had searched them, and using the honour system, they gave up whatever gun(s) they were hiding. Just looking for some elaboration in regards to that.

[Enoch247]

Originally posted by john

Current price for new airsofter to begin minimal play.

Thermal Goggles $50
BDUs $60
Gun and Batt $259.00 sig 552 + $15.00
magazine free with purchase
Boots $50

434.00

add 10 standards at 20

634.00

10 stars for what 30 bucks

that means it is either 30% cheaper to buy an m4 or mp5 or that it is 30% more expensive to play airsoft with diff weapons. Or that is if you want to go to an event.

Actually since the TM SIG standard mag (http://www.combatdepot.com/default.asp?pg=products&specific=jnlppmp8) holds twice what the Star mags do, you would only need to buy 5 standards to equal a box of stars so it would be closer to 15%

And Stars usually run closer to $40-$45 except when they are on sale of course. :)

Also don't forget, some of those minimal requirements you stated are not exactly minimal....

boots (I paid $32 for my jungle boots)
BDU's (I paid $10 for a surplus blouse and 25 for new pants)
Thermal goggles (I paid a flat $35 for non-thermals with a fog resistant layer that have yet to give me fogging problems)

The bottom line: Playing airsoft varies in price from one person's setup to another. He who buys the mainstream gun saves money. Is it fair? No, but It's the price you pay to have a more elaborate setup than I do. This is one of the reasons the 97th Phantoms require all new recruits to at least start out with an M16 variant, there is just more of an infrastructure to support this gun (plenty of upgrades, used mags for sale, Star mags, etc.)

[strikers_blade]

Originally posted by Cobra Commander
OK Blade, just two questions from me:
1) I thought I read earlier that we bring our own magazines, but not our own ammo? Is that why this is as expensive as it is? Maybe I'm smoking too much crack and I didn't read it right...but I assume ammo is to be given at supply points?
2) About the prisoner thing, I know it was discussed in other threads, but how's that going to work as far as hidden weapons. I know there was some discussion about telling the person that you had searched them, and using the honour system, they gave up whatever gun(s) they were hiding. Just looking for some elaboration in regards to that.

1) What do you mean by "expensive"? It is 15$, the usual field fee for Springfield. If you want us to supply bbs, you will have a higher fee dude ;)

2) The prisoner rules will be posted very soon but to summarize it, you cannot physically search another player. You just have to approach him and say "I am searching your jacket" (for example). If the prisoner has something in his jacket, he then have no choice but to give you what he has. All guns can be kept by the prisoner but need to be slung (sp) at all time during captivity. We use that rule so there is no prisoner "abuse" and personal belonging have less chances to be broken.


Oh also, I had to delete player registration this morning because they were not using proper BDU colors for specific teams (i.e. Tropicos cannot use Woodland). So please, those that got deleted, register again.

[Slaya360]

Ok Blade, well we've got a situation then. The only camo any of our team has is woodland, except for Dante, which is currently outfitted with digital camo. We were just going to be Tropico because of the BDU option: Woodland or other(could be either). So, when we all show up, could Dante still be on our team due to his different camo? Or do you have any other solutions for us?

[Cobra Commander]

Oh my gosh, wow I'm totally retarded, I was thinking it was the $35 or something for opereration remnant. Wow, totally messed up on that one. And what if they hide something in their pants (not so inclined to search there). Me personally, I sometimes keep my M9 tucked in my waistband, but I guess we'll know when you post it then.

[stewb_10]

Originally posted by strikers_blade

3)mag limits/ milsim rules
I will soon post more details in the event information page on www.airsoftevents.com but this event will use strict mag and ammo capabilities. First off, nobody will be allowed to bring their own bbs in the field. Only way to be resupplied will be either at specific locations such as HQ or ammo depot or by air drop. As far as mags, as stated before, high caps will not be allowed. There will be no limitation on 30rds mags and 10 mag max for reg mags.





This is why people are confused about ammo.

[solution_zero]

I'm pretty sure what Blade meant was no loose bbs in the field to reload mags in the field during the game.

[stewb_10]

yes, thats what i understood, but it can be misleading. you have to bring your own bbs to the event, but cant take them into the game.

[Cobra Commander]

I was just thinking that this morning actually. Though, I wonder how we will accomplish resupply at an "ammo dump" or HQ, maybe we leave the field? Curious about this, since I will be able to carry 9, maybe 10 mags at most (as I'm sure most will be). I'm not exactly trigger heavy, but if it's two three hour sessions, I'm going to run low eventually. I'd like some clarification on that situation then, now that I've pulled my head out of my 4th point of contact.

[RogueShooter]

with all of this controversy over the hi-cap vs. low-cap i am certain that there must be some reason that people with hi-caps can't just load 30 bbs in their gun and stop, or someone else would have thought of it already. I am wondering why this is not a possibility?

[P90killer]

high caps can't load like only 30bb's and then there is the honesty thing. and with bb weights what will be supplied for those that may need i assume .20 or higher.

[strikers_blade]

Stewb_10, to confirm your thoughts, I indeed meant "no loose bbs in the field". If I would have provide bbs, i would have said "bbs will be provided" or at least "do not bring your own bbs at the event" :D

So just to make the thing clear, You are more than welcome to bring your own bbs. All bb restrictions such as reloading mags will be explain at the event, so there will be no confusion.

[Jacko]

Blade, as per the ammo limits, I'd have to use M16 STAR mags through my SAW, right?

[strikers_blade]

Jacko,

No, your saw is "belt feeded" so you do not need STAR Mags. Although, if you don't have a "box mag", you will be authorized to use high cap, but with a bb limitation....still.

[Jacko]

Ah, I didn't see any provisions for belt-fed replicas. I do have the TOp box-mag, so thanks.

[tombo131]

Fellas, whether you like the star/locap rule or not, the fact is the Strikers are hosting this game and they get to make the rules. Personally, I love the new idea for this event. Yeah, it is dissapointing that some people won't be able to play; but this is just another reason for a
few fellas to step up and start hosting their own style event. I mean, can't we all just get along :) And let's just hope that STAR releases G3 and G36 mags in the near future :D

Also, Blade, I get the feeling that some people that just registered on Airsoft Events and do not visit this site might not realize the magazine rule.. just thought you might want to send out an email to all people registered for the event.

One more thing Blade. If the ammo crates can be stolen by the other team, and our OWN ammo is inside.. That doesn't quite seem to work..

[strikers_blade]

Tombo,

I will make sure everybody read about such rules (which are explained in the event description).

Regarding the ammo crates, I will explain everything when time will come. Matter of fact, here is few things. Players will have specific place to put their own bbs and those place will not be accessable to the other players. Although, there will be places/boxes whene you might find bbs. those places/boxes will be accessible by all players. So first come first served in that case ;)

[CAR15A2]

Blade,

Will there be some detailed mission info available before the day of the game? I don't mean everything. Nobody ever knows exactly what to expect in war. But there is usually a fair amount of info available before forces are risked in combat.

[strikers_blade]

CAR15A2, Commanders and squad leaders will get access to all the available information. This access will be delivered as soon as the registration will close (March 1st)

[P90killer]

with the time for the end of registration comnig up i would like to put it out that as i am signed up as a sniper, i will gladly change sides to tropico if it will be necessary for the tropicos to have one. blade post it here or get a hold of me throught email. thanks much and long live kreigers, *as he offers himself to the other side*

[tombo131]

I have one sniper definately coming (for tropicos) with the possibility of a second.

[Zorak]

Blade, could you please post some info on local hotels? I know we stayed at a place whose name we got from you for last year's ops in Springfield, but I can't remember the name or phone number of the hotel.

[strikers_blade]

Snipers role will be given at the end of the registration time.

As far as Hotel, I will have few of them in the Hotel section of www.airsoftevents.com real soon.

[Crossfire]

Couple more questions that popped up with my team mates Blade:

-Will players be allowed to carry EMPTY speed loaders into the field? Say we end up running out of ammo, and we return to a 'base' that we can reload at. If we already have our own speed loaders on our person, that should make the process of reloading mags much easier.

-In regards to my team's support gunner, would he be allowed to carry his box mag (empty) along with his electric C-mag? The box mag could serve as a back up to the C-mag incase it fails. If the C-mag does manage not to work, he could take the bbs out of it and put them in the box mag.

Thats all I can think of now. Im sure there will be more as we get closer to the event.

[strikers_blade]

-Will players be allowed to carry EMPTY speed loaders into the field? Say we end up running out of ammo, and we return to a 'base' that we can reload at. If we already have our own speed loaders on our person, that should make the process of reloading mags much easier.

The only place bb loaders will be authorized is where the bbs will be. Being said, players will not be authorized to carry their own loader but if bbs are found or stored somwhere, appropriate loading tools will be available. For example, if Kreigers find an ammo crate with bbs in, there will also find a loading tool, which will have to stay in the crate after use. Another example, if Tropicos store ammos at their HQ, loaders will be authorized in the storage.


-In regards to my team's support gunner, would he be allowed to carry his box mag (empty) along with his electric C-mag? The box mag could serve as a back up to the C-mag incase it fails. If the C-mag does manage not to work, he could take the bbs out of it and put them in the box mag.
Unfortunately, allowing this would be pretty much the same than saying playing using reg mags should bring spare reg mag just in case their 10 mags would fail. So the best tip I could give you is telling your friend to bring the box mag to the event but keep it in the car until the Cmag fail.

Remember gentlemen, the registration time will close on March 1st. after this, it will be too late.

[strikers_blade]

Oh also, I want to make sure everybody read that only low mags (30rds) and reg mags (50-90rds) will be authorized for this game.

I preferred to remind you now than having you turned out at the gate ;)

[Crossfire]

Thanks for the replies Blade, Ill get those to my team mates as soon as possible.

[tombo131]

Are snipers going to be required to have a spotter for this event?

[snipe]

im sorry if this has already been discused.. as you said blade most of us hardcore players dont read the forums lol..

I was wondering if there was going to be any other ammo limit on the medics? i know in previous games it has been 100 rnds. in my opinion though i dont really feel that being fair because in real combat they are issued just as much ammo as a normal infantry man.

[One-Zero]

I have a question about the Mid-Cap mags. I'm going to buy a bunch of G&P M16 20rnd mid-cap magazines for my CAR-15 because I'm really big into Vietnam stuff, so could you make an exception if I were to not fill them up all the way. I won't abuse the rule, I'm here for mil-sim, not constant spam of 130 rnds. Also, does Tiger Stripe camouflage count for Tropico? What if I have team members who have OD green, can they be Tropico also?

[strikers_blade]

Tombo,

Yes, snipers will be required to have a spotter since their mission will be more specific than ever.

Snipe, There will be no ammo limits for medic but as their primary mission is not really to shoot others, I guess you guys will carry mags for nothing ;). also, advanced medic will have enough stuff to carry already so I doubt they want cumbersome mags to carry around :)

One-Zero, If you are referring to the straight mags from G&P, I guess we can do a compromise but if we do, that would also limit you in the number of mags you could carry in the field. Would it be an option for you?

[strikers_blade]

One more thing, if you guys chose "woodland or others", that meant you could be on either side. Being said, Tropicos are actually less players than Kreigers so everybody not using "woodland" as their BDU will be automatically transferred in Tropicos.

Have any problem with this? please email me at blade@teamstrikers.com

[strikers_blade]

Gentlemen, the registration is now close. If your name does not appear or you need to un-register, please email me at blade@teamstrikers.com

Next, could you please make sure the team you've selected is what you wanted so I can start opening the private forums.

Also, the private forums will be on www.teamstrikers.com since most of Blind Fury setup is done there. Because of this, all of you that would like access to these forums should be registered on the website (teamstrikers). If not, please do so, it is free :)

Thanks for interest into this event

[P90killer]

i would like to change sides as sniper assuming that i am asigned the posistion. so saying that i would like to snipe for the tropicos, and my spotter will be MC51ED. thanks and can't wait
:D

even though i was krieger for the origional BF

[Dougrich]

Blade when will access to private forums be up and running?

[strikers_blade]

Dougrich, it will take probably until the end of the week. Not because I am not ready but because some players got their registration mixed up and I had to put them in one team or the other, which might be a problem for them. So for now, I am waiting confirmation from those players and everything will be ready for you folks.

[Dougrich]

Thanks for the info Blade

[One-Zero]

Originally posted by strikers_blade

One-Zero, If you are referring to the straight mags from G&P, I guess we can do a compromise but if we do, that would also limit you in the number of mags you could carry in the field. Would it be an option for you?

I was just planning on carrying 7 of those, since a bandoleer only carries 7.

[strikers_blade]

Well, what about carrying 7 but keeping 5 empty at all time? :D

[Lt. Corbin]

Well Blade, where do we find out who the snipers, medics, co's etc are??

[strikers_blade]

Lt. Corbin,

I already started to open forums for the CoC (chain of command) and also the main forum for the event.

As far as role forums, I have to wait and see whi has to be switched side, so you do get access to ending up loosing it.

[Dougrich]

Who will be apart of the CoC besides of course the commander is it a specified group of people chosen by the commander or what?

[strikers_blade]

Dougrich, this is the type of questions you can now direct on www.teamstrikers.com

But to answer real quick, commanders and squad leader are the CoC. standard players will suffer from their decisions :lol:

[Dougrich]

thanks again for the info Blade

[Grease Man]

I will have 3 boxes of m16 star 30rd mags (10 in each box) to rent for anyone whos interested. Cost is $15 per box for the whole day, and I must have collateral (id of some sort) If interested PM me.

[Sandmann42]

Blade r u bringing any stars mags to sell? Specificly mp5?

[strikers_blade]

Sandman,

www.combatdepot.com will be there with everything, although, I would recommend you to order your mags a.s.a.p. because everything is going fast right now and as STAR usually take longer to deliver, I might have some issues for the game. BUT as of now, I still have few boxes available

[Sandmann42]

Thanks Blade...just waiting for the taxreturn!!!! hopfully soon...if I do order them can i pick them up at the event to save on shipping?

[strikers_blade]

of course ;)

[PointMan]

hey blade when are the icons on the airsoft event page going to be up and running

[strikers_blade]

Pointman,

If you read the whole page, you will notice that everything is already written. So the icons are in fact the future way to show people what they have know. Instead of reading 5-6 pages of stuff, you will be able to read the section you need to be refreshed or just read everything one by one.

Isn't better than just a ton of text?

[PointMan]

thats what i figured they were for but i just wanted to make sure that there wasn't going to be like a more in depth crazy rule book type thing actually i don't really know what i was thinking stupid midterm crap has got my mind all scrambled all i know is it needs to be the 26th like right now

[Dougrich]

Originally posted by PointMan
it needs to be the 26th like right now

I'm with you on that one damn OGT next week would rather be play airsoft than takeing that thing.

[stewb_10]

haha sophmores, (and some juniors, HOPEFULLY not seniors). guess where ima bee the first 3 hrs of school next week... ima be chillaxin! (or watchin the back of my eyelids... hehe.

[HardcoreKiller]

blade,do you know what the age limit will be?because i will try to make it there.

mini-ramrod

[stewb_10]

umm registration is closed man

[HardcoreKiller]

really?so there is no way i can go to this event now?

[PointMan]

it would sure seem that way ... maybe u could begs lots?:D

[solution_zero]

Hey Blade. Did you find anything out about the MP5K as a sidearm dealy?:confused:

[HardcoreKiller]

yeah it would seem like i would have to beg.But this is is the first time i have heard of this event.

[PointMan]

i you really really want to play just ask Blade... the tropicos could use people maybe i don't know though it sucks you just found this event cause its been on here for a couple months a couple very very long months ......IS IT THE 26th YET grrr ........ stupid march taking forever

[HardcoreKiller]

lol

[strikers_blade]

Sorry HardCore Killer but the age limit is/was set to 15 years old. I sure hope we will be able to have in our events in the future but unfortunately, not this one :(

Also, a little reminder folks, We started to open the private forums to the players. Unfortunately, I am still waiting answers from some of you regarding which team they REALLY wanted to be on. For the team that I definately know your side, expect access within the following hours....

[Munin]

P90killer, do you still want one of the sniper slots for the Kreigers?

[P90killer]

hells yes i do i just didn'y know what was going on so i didn't say anything :confused: but yes i would almost prefer to stay kriegers, easier on my spotter, BDU patterns ;)

[strikers_blade]

Folks, As I am not going fast enough for some players :D I would appreciate if you would make a demand for each individual team private forum access.

You can access the group here;
http://www.teamstrikers.com/web/modules.php?name=Forums&file=groupcp

From there, you only have to select either "kreigers" or "tropicos" , view information and then, give your name....

All this can be done only if you become Strikers website member....sorry.

[tombo131]

Tropicos - Make sure you are checking the private team forums on www.teamstrikers.com for info.

[strikers_blade]

For those that did get forum access yet, please email me at blade@teamstrikers.com

[strikers_blade]

Folks, for those that do not have regular mags (50-90rds) and or 30rds mags, I urge you to either email me at sales@combatdepot.com and or find a supplier that can provide them before the event. I will run another 10% discount on all my regular mags until next and/or go out of stock.

I certainly do not want any of you being refused at the gate because you would not meet the minimum requirements.

[mite]

Wow!

Thanks for having a mag sale again Blade! It is really nice of your to use your store to make this transition easier on the community!

A question, NextMayor found a neat mag modification for Midcaps and posted it HERE (http://www.airsoftohio.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7049).

Would mags with that modification be acceptable, or does it just add too much confusion? (Since mid caps are generally recognizable by the little switch for the BB release (like a high cap) but without the hatch door).

Just curious, because I was thinking about trying the modification out.

Mite

[strikers_blade]

Mite,

we just confirmed and yes, mid caps modified to be used as regular mags will be allowed at the event. Although remember, we will make sure people are not sneaking mid caps in the event throughout the day ;)

[stewb_10]

hehe.. duz that all mid-cap mags are subject to random suprize inspections blade? lol :D

[strikers_blade]

If we have to go through, yes, but make no mistake, being caught with midcap in the field might not be a funny thing for the guilty and his team ;)

[oldschool]

blade please do let everyone know we will be selling hamburgers and hot dogs last game no one knew we were coming. i will be bring a m4 that shoots around 450 fps will this be a sniper gun or not for i can be a sniper, as i train with sgt hopkins to be this.let me know thanx oldschool out

[strikers_blade]

oldschool. it has been posted in the private forum that you will be there with cantina.

See your private message, I am sending you something.

[Violator]

I'm not sure if this question has been asked/answered yet, and being that the thread is 8 pages long I don't have time to search through the 180 odd posts on here, so don't flame me to death if this has been covered.

Anyway, I checked the 3day weather report for this weekend, and though we all know how reliable these things can be (especially in Ohio), what are the plans in case of rain? According to the weather report, theres going to be rain all weekend in Columbus. Will the event be cancelled/postponed if this is the case?

[grunt]

Good Question. I was wondering the same, since it looks like it will be a lovely Ohio weekend.

Weather forecast

"If the weather forecast announced, 2 days prior to the event, indicated lower temperature than 45 degrees and/or rain/snow, the event will be postponed. In the case of sudden weather change (within 2 days of the event), The event will still go on unless players do not show up in good numbers (usually means less than 10 players show up)."

(above, found here)
http://airsoftevents.com/modules/Airsoft_Events/weather.php?id=35

http://airsoftevents.com/modules/Airsoft_Events/event_details.php?event_num=35 or here if you click on the "Weather" icon.

[strikers_blade]

http://www.teamstrikers.com/web/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=954

:)

[Violator]

Ok, now when and where will the official annoucement be made if you have to cancel the event?

[strikers_blade]

Thursday night (2 days before the event)

[notabob]

now weather.com is saying "cloudy" for springfield on saturday. i have been following the ten-day forecast for the last week and they have changed their mind about it every other day. chances are that it wont rain at all. ill put my $5 on that.

[grunt]

It's Ohio, it will rain...If I win notabob, you get me a 12 pack of Code Red, alright?


(Canned..Ice cold, don't forget.)

[notabob]

ok...if a 12 pack of code red costs $5

[Mole]

I'll be there regardless. Anyone that wants to come play, come on out.

MOLE

[MC51ED]

Blade, i have a problem. I just noticed that the waiver must be notarized, and i cant do that today because i have to go up to columbus to swear in for the guard and i wont be back until tomorrow evening, is there any other way i could still play if it isnt notarized?

[strikers_blade]

MC51ED, you do not have to be present when you get it notorized. So who ever will sign can go by himself.

:)

[MC51ED]

thanks blade, looks like i should get it done then.

[Sandmann42]

I checked WeatherBug which is spec for this area and it just said partly cloudy...the Bug has been 99% correct for me in the past...hope I didnt just jinks that...
OBTW...blade are we allowed to carry speed loaders in the feild...speciifly the pump ones?

Cya

[strikers_blade]

no loading tools allowed in the field. The only tools allowed will be provided by organizers at designated areas...which you will find out at the event through your commanding officers ;)

[notabob]

Originally posted by strikers_blade
no loading tools allowed in the field. The only tools allowed will be provided by organizers at designated areas...which you will find out at the event through your commanding officers ;)

and knowing you it will probably be only 1 piece of a loading tool and a clue as to where to find the remaining parts. ;)

[strikers_blade]

Notabob,

In fact, there will be a 3" laoding tube available so that should be plenty for all your needs :D





j/k

[Sandmann42]

Oh poop I bought my pump speed loader for nuthin for this game...oh well....viva la MILISM ;)

[Knect87]

Blade, you have probably already mentioned this, but will you be selling any M4/M16 standards at the game? I will be selling two lightly used ICS M4A1 450-rnd Hi-caps if anyone is interested. I will also have a Leaper's M4 mag clamp.

[Grease Man]

good god man.....

[Dougrich]

how much for the clamp mag?

[strikers_blade]

Hey Folks, I have a huge favor to ask; who would have a 4wheeler or a dirtbike we could borrow? if so, please email me at blade@teamstrikers.com . We are even ready to pay if needed.

[stewb_10]

im so mad i wont be able to go... 4wheeler or dirtbike, lol i dont wanna know...

u crazy blade. ull probably scatter the parts and tell one team they have to build it back together and drive to the first objective and tell the next team they have to plant smoke mines under the engine block before the other team gets it ... lol

(the afore mentioned scenario is copyright stewb_10, stew_b is not responsible for any death or injury that may occur while infringing this copyright... lol j/k)

[john]

Good luck and fun to all!!

I hope i will be able to come to the next. Good luck with the event blade and i will wait eagerly to find out details from dman..

HAVE FUN ALL GOOD HUNTING. GOOD WEATHER.

john