mortar/grenade launcher

[browny031]

im looking for instructions and materials on how to make a custom rocket luancher/mortar. I want somehthing like the AT-4 that a lot of peeps have made. Something were i can shoot bbs like a m203. Something useful when you attack a fort or are getting buncered etc.

Instructions and MAterial list would be fantastic!!!!!!!!


BRoWNy

[Agent 47]

well, i dont know the schematics to the M1a1 abrams main cannon, but i can tell you, that all good theories start with a SPELL CHECK.

I prefer to throw large blunt objects at those attacking my fort. Anything from catalyic converters, to old cadillac transmissions. The bigger the concussion, the better.

Drew

[Kaiser78]

browny031,
I dont know about anyone else here, but I spend months testing my designs and making them safe enough for people to use. Just as of last weekend, I finally got most my projects finished. I completed a LAW, a mortar that when you actually drop the round it will launch, and many other projects. All this I did with some commen sense and some electronics knowlege. Fluid mechanics also helps, but all this is stuff you can look up at your library.

Since it seems that most people are looking to create these things and they are kind of a golden standard right now, I dont think that you will find anyone giving away all their research for free. If you have some very specific questions I will do my best to help, but I will not give away my "secrets". If you are looking for formulas or the voltage drop across a triple nickel IC I would be willing to help, but asking straight out how to do it, just isnt cool. Feel free to PM me.

Kaiser

[gunfighters]

if you have to ask then you might be better off buying one. You can pick up a mortar or a LAW type launcher for around $75. Yes if you built it your self it would cost around $50 or less( this asumes you got everything right the first time, barrel size, airchamber etc). you are paying for the builders time and all the R&D it took to get it right.

[john]

title?

JOHN:rolleyes:

[gunfighters]

ebay you can find alot of launchers(some good, some bad)
rusty's paintballgear makes a whole asortment(little pricey) but they do have a nice LAW kit for $100 http://www.rustyspaintballgear.com/catalog/details.asp?id_wep=317 and a real steel AT-4 tube turned into a launcher for $800, they also cary an asortment of mortars
BPE makes a hell of a gun http://www.bp-usa.com/weaponry.htm but its a little too fast for my tastes (42-45 Joules) $400 ish but it is being used by the us army as a training tool
http://www.tguns.com/ also makes some but there amo is a tad scary
WWW.Milsimlabs.com (my company so disclamer in place) $75 for a rocket launcher or mortar, no frills, just performace.

[john]

gunfighter i think you are going to be getting phone calls from me next season.. Keep up the good work.


HNIC

[M4A1gunner]

I was working on all of these different types of ideas a while ago (grenades, laws, mortar, claymores) I got a working claymore and mortar. But to tell you all it is not worth it. Not only my claymore ridiculously hurts. They are pur out dangerous. I say wait till a manufacture makes them and they are able to be used on public game fields.

[gunfighters]

very smart words, many people bulild "toys" with safty as an after thought. but as my last post pointed out there are a lot of " manufactures" out there truning out nice equipment.

[M4A1gunner]

Oh, I highly understand what you mean by "a lot of " manufactures" out there truning out nice equipment" But I they are not allowed on fields. I cant wait till they come out with ones you can use.

Also, Does anyone know what the army uses for taining with claymores, mines, and other traps?

[gunfighters]

what field rules are disalowing these items, as a manufacture I would like to know.

there is a large varity of stuff the US millatary uses for training, most are too dangurus for airsoft use and illeagal to own any way
many baces have traing $$ to spend on out side items that are not GI issued.
they spend it on traing items made by small companys such as myself ( truth be known I only have had one contract but hey @ least its braging rights:D )
while they don't cary my products http://hstrial-avanderplaats.homestead.com/Index.html
acts as a middle man for many of these items, Andrew is a great guy and has sent clients my way so be sure to check out the sight.

[john]

they are too dangerous? So if i used your products at my feild i might endanger people? Keep in mind these are a bunch of guys shooting eachother with bb guns not laser tag.

JOHN

[gunfighters]

most are too dangurus for airsoft use and illeagal to own any way
I was refering to the pyro products used in training. But some of the nonpyro systems(leagal to own!!!!!) make a LOUD boom when they go off (one site claims as loud as a 308 cal blank) and could do some hearing damage if it goes off close to you head.
but no I was not refering to my systems, If you read our misstion stament on the web site you will see that onlike most , we build for PLAYERS not for DOD contracts( but will sell to them. ;) )
I do feel we have some of the safeist systems out there, indeed thats why I did have the one milltary sale, they were traing a sherif dept. on raiding pot fields and felt what they had was too dangures to use with cilvilans.
that being said we don't play laser tag, there are risks inhertant to what we do. you shoot some one @ point blank range with a nerf launcher(any model not just mine) it's going to hurt. It will easly break a nose and probly a rib (40+joules). Thats why we state they are intended for use on nonhuman targets.

[john]

Iwould only use them for airsoft purposes and for use on infantry. We have had some bazooka type models here before but have always kept a 15 ft kill zone and have never condoned directly firing at players. It could happen though so i would like to know to the best of your knowledge what would be the safest way to use these to fulfill my purposes.

I want to get a bunch of organizers together and order some mortars etc.. would you be willing to cut the price for a larger order. What's the deal. Where's the break as we say..

JOHN

[gunfighters]

well a "safer" round would be the $.88 footballs sold @ walmart. Another option is a 1 1/4" insert in the rocket launcher to alow it to shoot 30 CC water balloons. they have good range(75-100yds) not enuf water to screw with an AEG(2 tablespoon's worth) and are fairly safe. I got shot in the face by one @ point blank range( I was working on one, then the wife and dog got home, dog came runing up to say "hi", jumped on me and put a paw on the valve) with only some hard core stinging (and a lot of swearing) there was a bit of redness (that was gone in a 1/2 hour) but no brusing or swelling.
over all I like 100cc waterballoons for mortar amo they are cheap, biodegade, you don't have to go find them after words, and are one of the "safer" types of rounds ( we have been hiting each outher with them sence we were kids) but like anthing short of a REF walking up and saying to a player "you just got kiled" they do have risks
if you want to set up a bulk order drop me a email in month or so. Arine's Airsoft ran a piece on us this weekend so I have my hands full right now.
Also lets get this thread back on track.Not to be rude but if people have questions about my line up contact me in private, the forum is not here to provide ad space
:D

[Chapman]

does it actually shoot a rocket or is it like a shotgun?

[gunfighters]

most of the systems being talked about in this thread shoot nerf "pocket vortex" foam foot ball with tail fins.. They can also use carboard sabos to shoot water ballons, BB/paintball shot shells, glow sticks or what ever elce will fit down the barrel for a good look @ the types of amo go to
http://www.milsimlabs.com/ammo.htm

[M4A1gunner]

Theres alot to choose from. I just personaly dont trust half of the people who make these things. At least not until its a manufacted by a large company. I only dont want to waste some money, I would like to keep everything safe. We dont need airsoft to get even more of a bad rep. I live in Ma and they are so damn libral here its rediculous. Airsoft is looked down apon. (Its sad)

[CRairsoft]

as for the home made AT4, i made mine out of PVC pipe, and use modle rocket engines. i had to put a retaining cap/ring in side the main tube so that the rocket engine/shell would not come out. but i must say it works very well. i even rigged up my own electric fire control.

also i have put this to use in my mortor tube and it works great. even for base defense. good uses.

[Spook]

http://h2htrainers.com/sim_tac_products.htm

Some of the nicest commercially available mortars on the market. I have seen them on eBay for $230 and shipping.

Frankly, if you can't SPELL well, the last bloody thing I want to see you doing is experimenting with items that fire projectiles en masse at high speeds.

Supercell Development makes the ASC-7 Claymore mine.

Stick to what works gentlemen. It's far safer than experimenting.

[CRairsoft]

Originally posted by Spook
http://h2htrainers.com/sim_tac_products.htm

Some of the nicest commercially available mortars on the market. I have seen them on eBay for $230 and shipping.

Frankly, if you can't SPELL well, the last bloody thing I want to see you doing is experimenting with items that fire projectiles en masse at high speeds.

Supercell Development makes the ASC-7 Claymore mine.

Stick to what works gentlemen. It's far safer than experimenting.

sorry for the spelling,

as for me making my own mortar tubes, well i can tell you, they work better than some of the ones you can buy, as i have had not one problem with the ones i have made. and i must say spelling has nothing to do with expermintation, trust me onthis. i have made everything from smoke bombs, to flash bangs for my team and others to use in milsim events.

[Snipers_Ghost]

Wow gunfighters your sites pretty awsome :D . I may buy some of your stuff once i get my other airsoft stuff paid for (I'm buying a smart charger and a gas Mac-11).

i've been looking for stuff like this for a while I usually play with some friends about 20 guys and i think we could buy some of these. It would definitely add to the realism. I'm not scared of anyone getting hurt
I probably wouldn't let anyone else fire it ( I have a couple... Idiotic friends :D)

[Spook]

I wasn't directing that spelling comment to you CR. I also know about Seth's learning disability.

Commercially available items are safer for a number of reasons. One of them is that the manufacturers possess both the money and the ability to conduct proper tests of the product. If Joe Average airsofter gets lucky and makes one model that seemingly works the first time, he may just be happy, not realizing he may have fractured some vital part which will cause the device to rip off his arm the next time he tries it. Engineers work on commercial products. Draftsmen and engineers design commercial products and they have years of knowledge in mechanics, physics, and other vital fields to make sure that the item works safety each time and every time.

Commercial products are safer for another reason too. If they go horribly wrong, the manufacturer is re$pon$ible (spelling deliberate). He will have insurance to cover his boo-tay should his little device propel a BB too fast and shatter your ANSI Z87.1 rated glasses and cost you an eye or if a little too much green gas causes the cylinder to rupture and explode, severing a couple of your fingers.

Get the point fellas? S A F E T Y...

[S.E Angels from hell]

you can make a cheap bb launcher, but it doesnt have tons of range or anything, but its worth checking out. Wilton, a wedding company makes spring loaded pop out streamers. they are like the little party poppers, except these are bigger and are spring loaded so you can use them again and again. release the junk inside and cut out the string holding the junk in. then tape over the inner platform. push the platform back down in and reset it. Fill it with bbs, it can be filled with around 130 bbs. Put a piece of painters tape on the top after it is filled, then take a knife and cut an 'X' into the tape. The bbs should stay, and if not, just make a makeshift cap for the thing. when ready to use, leave the tape on and everything (except for the extra cover if you made one) and pull the lever on the bottom or back of it, aiming it in the direction of the target. Seems pretty safe, and it doesnt have too much power or anything. The pop out streamers can be found at wal mart or something. You can also get them at www.wedding.wilton.com . just type 'pop out streamers' into the search box. I hope this helps somebody, let me kno if it does.