Desert Eagle

[KamikaziRunner]

My bro is a complete moron and tells me i can only use white gas in my Desert Eagle. Now a review was posted on AO a while ago saying that it could take up to red gas. Someone help me-would i be able to use green gas in it?

[keeper36rm]

Assuming you are talking about the KWC DE, you should be able to use green gas without any problems. In fact the DE is very pathetic using 134a gas.

What the heck is "white" gas? Never heard of it.

[KingsFan182]

Deagles can take red gas but I wouldn't recommend it. And btw some guy is selling something kick *** for a deagle:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31685&item=3608625830

Might wanna check it out...

[keeper36rm]

No sense in spending money on that, just spray paint your plastic slide yourself, it'll take no more than 2min. :)

[Sykosis]

I need a new slide. I kinda broke one after getting mad at my gun. The gun fails to propel bbs, so I threw the slide :cool:

[Phizz]

The Desert Eagle is my favorite GBB Gun. I have no idea what "white gas" is, but the gun fires efficiently and hits hard with Green Gas.

[KamikaziRunner]

ok-its KSC-and my gas vavle release on the gun keeps falling off its pin everytime i shoot 4 - 5 rounds out of it-what should i do?

[Phizz]

Well, I did not even know KSC Manufactured a DE, I was referring to the KWC. If you could explain your problem with a more thorough condition, I would gladly try to help you.

-Justin

[KamikaziRunner]

lol nvmd its KWC hehe-mispelled it sry

[Phizz]

Magazine problem, or is it the guns internals?

[Phizz]

The picture may help to understand the internals of your gun, and What did you mean by White Gas? :)

[KingsFan182]

I guess he means 134...the bottle is white.

[KamikaziRunner]

Originally posted by KamikaziRunner
ok-its KSC-and my gas vavle release on the gun keeps falling off its pin everytime i shoot 4 - 5 rounds out of it-what should i do?

I know whats falling off and why-i just dont know how to fix it-i know if i glue it-it would stay-but i dunno if its good for the gun-the hammer that releases the gas outa the mag keeps falling out because when the hammer comes down it strikes it and thus loosening the pin and eventually it just stops firing and boom i gotta take it apart and put the pin back in-i wanna know how i would fix it so i dont have to do that.

[KamikaziRunner]

yeh its ezier then calling it 134-just call it white has for the low end-green gas for the mid-and red for the best but most powerfule gas ;)

[Phizz]

OK, I think a friend of mine had that exact smae problem, the hammer will sometime disengage itself, and not fire correctly. I will give him a call and get back to you.

-Justin

[KamikaziRunner]

its the hammer hitting the piece that releases the outa the clip-and the hammer hits down on a pin thats connect directly do this piece-so the hammer after 4/5 shots knocks this piece loose and then you need to put the pin back in-thats the problem.

[Phizz]

OK, he reccomends you learn how to dissasemble your DEagle over and over until you can do it with ease. He says Loctite works fine fer him, but he was unable to find replacement parts for the gun. Just learn how to field strip your gun and learn how everything works.

[KamikaziRunner]

I already know how to dissemble and resemble my gun-its just teh gay pin keeps popin out when the hammer comes down and i was wondering how i would be able to fix it without damaging my gun because the pin rotates to move farward to trigger the gas to eject from the clip to fire the bb.

Loctite

Whats that?

[Phizz]

Loctite is a brand of super glue.

[KamikaziRunner]

o lol

[DumboRAT]

RE: the "color" of gasses --

Here's some airsoft terminology, as dictated by convention that runs back many, many years:

http://www.airsoftplayers.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=177&SearchTerms=gas,primer

Please familiarize yourself with such terminology, as it will help make both your life easier, as well as will help make the lives of those who are trying to help you much easier as well by easing confusion as based on semantics.

=)

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The KWC DE will need higher-powered gasses, such as Taiwanese "Green Gas," to operate reliably.

The previous/current-generation Tokyo Marui will require HFC134a for long-term durability. Their current/next-generation "new" Desert Eagle has yet to be put through its paces, and no conclusions can be drawn regarding this new product.

Allen
aka DumboRAT

[Sykosis]

I myself am not getting another product from KWC. They have a high manufacture defect rate (30%). I took a chance and got two Desert Eagles, both of which fail to fire now. It's probably the same problem Kamikazee is having. My Desert Eagles fail to even propel a bb out of the barrel unless I aim the gun down. When I have the cash, I will get Tokyo Marui's new Desert Eagle. Zinc metal die-cast construction? As close as you can get to metal without buying an aftermarket slide. I like it already.

[KamikaziRunner]

thank you-the super glue did the trick :) just hope i did it right-oh well lol

[Phizz]

Sykosis, there is no such thing as a 30% defect rate. No airsoft company has been plauged by this "defect rate" and I find it hard to beleive.

KWC products in general are great stock and will last a very long time with "proper maintenance."

Tokyo Marui Deagle VS. KWC Deagle. I think you would be dissapointed in the terms of how the Tokyo Marui Desert Eagle compares in power and velocity to the KWC Deagle.

The gun is to be used with HCF134a, already a downer if you wanted it for power. Then the slide is in fact metal, however looks may be deceiving when using weak gas to blowback a heavy slide everytime. The look of that gun is nice, It has trades and what not.

Just something to think about.

[DumboRAT]

Phizz,

You and other long-time hobbyists should know me as a die-hard KWC "high-grade" GBBs supporter, right?

Well, I'm also coming forward to unfortunately say that Sykosis's assessment is not far at all from the truth.

Even the "high-grade" variants of KWC's GBBs do experience a very high "lemon" -- or factory defect -- rate. That 30% figure is not far from the truth, and actually, before KWC's ISO certification back in late 1999, I've got it on good authority from one of their product's largest importers, back then, that their items' initial failure rate, even of the "high-grade" class, was nearing 50%.

This is why I always recommend to hobbyists that if they buy KWC, to buy only from a reputable retailer/broker/re-seller who will honor a no-questions-asked limited-time full-money-back or full-exchange/repair guaranty on these products. Even the "high-grade" pieces.

The KWC "high-grade" GBBs are true diamonds in the rough, and are among the most durable and reliable that I know of -- and are highly regarded especially by the more "OG" crowd.

But they're also definitely not without faults.

Allen
aka DumboRAT

[Phizz]

Dumbo Rat, thanks for the information, i'm positive that the Gas Gun Guru would put me in my place at this one.

Sykosis, I sincerely apologize for my rude, and absent minded comment and agree, even sadly, that there isabout a 30% defect rate with KWC guns.

)=

-Justin.

[DumboRAT]

Phizz --

LOL, don't be so hard on yourself -- I'm no guru -- I was just there when this happened, that's all.

If you'd been there, you would have known, too.

=)

Don't be so hard on yourself, we all have things we don't know, and we're all here to learn. Just today I learned some very valuable lessons from Texx regarding the "barrel wobble" issue on the TM M4/M16.

=)

We can't all know everything!

Allen
aka DumboRAT

[Uzi4U]

Kamakazzee i'm having the same problem as u were. could you help me out? What pin are u talking about? is it that plastic one in the gun?

[KamikaziRunner]

No-its the one the hammer strikes when the slick knocks the hammer back and then the hammer hits the piece that releases the gas, the pin that holds the piece that releases the gas, thats what kept falling off mine.

[KamikaziRunner]

its metal 2-sry i cant edit the post :(

[Uzi4U]

Ok i gotta check it out thanks