M733 vs 552

[boomstick]

It's time for me to buy another gun. I have it narrowed down to two, TM M733 & TM SIG 552. I have read numerous reviews on the M733 and am pretty much sold on this gun. However, the 552 is an awesome looking gun, just wondering, is it as good as it looks? Does anyone out there happen to own the 552, if so, I would love some input.

[Fuzzman]

I don't own the 552, but the M733 rocks!!! The only upside to the 552 that I can see is that it is newer, therefore, it will have newer internals (or at least it should). That's the very reason I bought the M733 over the M4. Howbeit all of this is irrelevant if you are a "rail system" lover :D.

[DeltaSniper]

thats a pretty silly claim, about it having newer internals.
For one, the two guns are like 4 months apart in time frame.
While the 552 runs a v 3 mech box, the v2 ofr the 733 works quite well. only way it would be better is if you upgraded to about say 370 FPS... then the 552 wouldnt need a reinforced mechbox.

Also, its not like the m733 was unrelaible or something and needed improved on. Heres a big thing..... tm guns are all the same stock. its all in what you want to have look whise. the gun itself is just a shell for the mechbox....

Edit: so you know, the m4 and m733 have v2 mech boxes and eg1000s. If you bought a brnad new m733 now, and an m4a1..... theyd probably more or less work the same.

[boomstick]

There is no doubt in my mind that the 552 will be a solid performer, I have TM's G36C and it has been most pleasant to shoot. But, since I have a real AR-15, I think I will go with the M733 until more reviews are out for the 552. Maybe I'll just have to buy them both:D

[Tripod]

M733 has many improvements over the M4A1. It has a lighter barrel (I suppose it helps barrel wobble and makes it feel more comfortable) and the mock gas tube is also attached to the barrel (I guess it used to be in the foregrip of the M4A1) and it helps barrel wobble a little bit and the retractable stock is supposed to be more durable and sturdy. I would go with the M733 over the SIG 552 just because I think SIGs are ugly.

[boomstick]

After reading even more reviews and everyone's comments, I am putting the 552 on the back burner for now and am going with the M733. The M733 just seems to be an awesome AEG. I can't wait to get one and upgrade it. Now, if I can only find one!!:p Thanks for the input!

[Fuzzman]

Originally posted by boomstick,

Now, if I can only fine one!!

I assume by that you mean you are looking for a retailer. I would reccomend Zorks.com (link (http://www.zorks.com) ). They appear to be the cheapest price around. Correct me if I am wrong...... :D

[Gooch]

$5 cheaper on combatdepot :P

[boomstick]

Well, I have a retailer fairly close by, but always out of stock. I hate to order things and wait, I rather go get it and bring it home, but when it comes to AEG's you have no choice but to WAIT:o Combat depot is the way to go if you can't afford airfare to Hong Kong:D

[Fuzzman]

Wow, that is really cheap :eek: (on combatclub). I'll remember them for future reference. Oh yeah, for anyone looking for combatclub.com, go to combatclub.net. Just some useful info :D .

[ShredMetalSoldier]

I own a Sig-552...if there's some people that would like a review i'd be glad to write one, might actually throw in some takedown pictures and such...just lemme know, guys

[boomstick]

Yes please!:D

[Smintjes]

yeah, good idea, haven't found a lot of reviews on the 552.

[Fuzzman]

Yes, very good idea. The 552 is supposed to be a good gun, but the former SG guns shed a bad light on it. Maybe you can clear up the confusion a little.

[chicken]

make a vid:D i would like that

[Deviant]

The biggest issue form an upgrades standpoint is the Version mech box.

V3 are GREAT to work with and are reinforced (as said previously). Not to mention the motor is SCREWED INTO the mech box and the motor wires are SOLDERED on (unlike V2 where the motor is free standing and must be set each time to assure proper interaction with gears and wires that that are PUSHED on the posts:mad: )

Also previously mentioned....after a certain upgrade, a V2 must be replaced with a reinforced version whereas the V3 is already reinforced.

If were left up to an INTERNAL decision, then go with the new SIG. If you base it on looks...well...thats up to you.

Look also at the cosmetic upgradability. Here we see alot for the 733 because everyone and there brother has an Armalite. The SIG however, is coming out with more and more upgrades/conversions much like the new G36. So...either or....in theis respect...is comparible.

My advise is too look into the mechanics, design, and upgrades for each and let those be your FIRST road to making a decision. Looks of both are VERY NICE so its easy to get torn.

[Cobra Commander]

Deviant, from an outside perspective (then again I'll likely order the 552 in a few months, when more info is available), if the the motor is attached to the gearbox, and the wires are soldered on, would this not make it difficult not only to remove the gearbox, but not only open it and upgrade parts?

[ArmyHummer]

The motor is NOT attatched to the gearbox - it is like the mp5 or m-16 setup for motors.

[Deviant]

For V3...no. The motor is a full seperate entity from the gearbox, held into/on the gear box by 2 screws which assure PERFECT seating everytime (unlike V2 which need to be reseated properlythen adjusted with a set screw that oftentimes does not stay in position after reapeated use). The wires on V3 are soldered on to provide constant connection unlike V2 where the wires can easily slip off.

As for the new SIG, I am not for certain what it entails in this matter as it just came out and I have yet to see or tinker with one. If it is anything like the G36, it IS screwed in and soldered like the rest of the V3's. The old style SIG's (which are modified V3) were seated, as Army Hummer stated, like V2's. For this new SIG...I dont know yet.

Try doing some searching for a review or layout of the gun and go from there. It is a TM so you know, either way, you are going to get good quality.

[ArmyHummer]

I DID mean the 552. Had one taken apart saturday night. :)

[PeteThePelican]

Sorry for bringing back this topic, but if you upgraded the 733 and the M4, to like 350 fps on both, they would still perform the same? I thought the barrel length would affect it, and the M4 would be superior?

[boomstick]

M4A1 would be superior in fps. I upgraded both M733 and M4A1 with 100 springs: M733 @360FPS, M4A1@370 FPS both using 9.6 1700 battery.

[Dive]

In defense of the SIG series,

I've played quite a few games with players using SIG series weapons, and I'll be the one to attest that these things are SEVERELY underrated do to the fact that people got scared about the tri-burst function. As I understand, the 552 couldn't fit the tri-burst chip? (correct me if i'm wrong, I'm not sure if they modded it to fit or not...) but for running off a stick battery, it pumped bb's damn well. Also, as Deviant so nicely pointed out, V3 mechbox has it's advantages functionwise over V2. I would imagine that overall the SIG would be more reinforced than the 551...though it was damn sturdy itself. If you'd like a real look into what a SIG series weapon is like, talk to Dax (aka Jewtiful), he played with a Sig 551 upgraded and modded all to hell for god knows how long, and that thing was a work of art. Anyhoo...the M733 is quality just in the aspect that TM is striving to reinforce the armalite series and make the armalites overall a better weapon (yea, as they didn't kick enough *** already.)...so it's a question of personal taste. Given the call though, I'd buy both :D


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