Are they interested?

[Nitemare]

First I'm going to lay out some things I feel of are atleast some importance. Then I'm going to describe the situation that both these girls have put me in. And then I'd like for some of you guys to give me some opinions, tips, and ideas. This post is for dating advice for these two girls that I think want me to ask them out. I suppose this post is pointed mainly to the younger generation here, but any advice is great. I've talked to only one friend about this because he's the only one I can fully trust. Thanks to everyone in advance.

Ok well first of all, I'm not the greatest looking guy out there. Nor am I extremely social or "in-shape". I'm a bit over weight, but not enough to cause concern in my opinion. Gaming has deprived me of my social life and confidence in the real world and my overall health. But now that I'm done with that crap, I'd like to get back to what every teen should be doing, socializing, having a good time, and dating. The first girl I've known for probably 3 or 4 years, the second girl, probably about 4 to 5. I have fallen for both of them, but I am very shy, and get nervous quickly. I'm going to tell you guys some signs I believe they are throwing out to me telling me to take the initiative.

The first girl, is really getting into it in my opinion. I could however just be paranoid, but once you hear this, you're probably going to agree for the most part. She's a short girl, kind of around 5 '5 or so. At the start of the school year, I didn't take much notice to her due to my lack of chance with her, but she is showing things that have changed my mind, so I'll hop right to it. Most of the stuff she has said happens on the bus, because we don't have classes together and she sits in the seat next to me on the other side of the bus. After the first week of school passed, she started flirting, then kept going deeper and deeper. She would constantly compliment me about random things, over and over again, laughing, making random conversation with me. Then she started saying things like your shirt is gettin me goin, aka turning her on. As you can see, shes messing with me, but she was funny about the whole thing. She would continue doing this and got more serious. She started talking about the sexual parts of her body and things like that. About a week and a half ago, she asked me if I loved her. This really sent my nervousness over the edge, I simply gave her a thumbs up because I was really starting to like her. Things continued, then she asked me to smell her shirt, she basically got really close in her chest area, if you catch my drift. She had other guys smell her shirt too, but she pushed her shirt out really far so they wouldn't get nearly as close as I did. Next week, she was messing with her friend that sits with her before I got on the bus. She was messing around with her chest area, and asked her friend to do it. Her friend kept saying no, then she said, find I'll just have (my name here) do it. Her friend told me this once I got on the bus, and (girl who is doing all this) was really embarrased that her friend told me. A few days later, when we were getting off the bus, we got up, she was infront of me, and pushed her behind into my crotch on purpose... The next day, she wanted me to feel her legs. She also dropped her phone on the floor and asked me to get it and was positioned in a way that would force me to "upskirt" her. In the past shes done random things to me, but not nearly as serious as these things.

The only reason I am having hesitation is that she talks to a lot of guys, but I'm the only one I've seen her do these things to. No other guy I've seen around her has she done anything even close. She could be trying to make me jealous but I'm not sure...

The next girl is also pretty short. She talks to me a lot on the bus, and also in person. She hasn't done anything physical to show me any signs, just a lot of chit-chat and some other things. Whenever someone on the bus would do something to make her laugh, she'd turn over at me and broaden her smile and things like that. She also makes a lot of solid eye contact along with the face gestures. Whenever I see her in person, she always says hi, no matter where I am at. Even when with friends, I'm the only person she says hi to. I always say hi back, but yesterday when I saw her, she kept repeating it until I acknowledged her. She does a lot of "hair-flipping" and says things that might make me think her appearence was "bad" although I barely take notice, for example, "My shoes are dirty" or "I couldn't straighten my hair this morning". She also talks to me quite a bit more than other guys, and those she does talk to, they ask her out and she always says no to them. I have yet to try it myself though because I am too nervous plus I don't really want to risk our friendship that we have until I know she wants to take it farther 100%.

All in all, I'm pretty confused and stressed. I haven't had a girlfriend in a long time, and these are the two that I like the most, and that are showing the most interest in me. So please, tell me what you guys think, and if you can, provide me some tips on what to do. Thanks.

[Miyagi]

HOI candidate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Falcon]

HOI candidate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOI VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nitemare]

I can't decide if that would be considered a "good" thing or "bad" in this instance. But uhh, thanks anyway?

[Falcon]

Well lets just put it this way... you could find a much better site for this kind of question, that I'm sure of. Posting it here is like jumping into a cage of hungry lions with a broken leg and steak tied to your neck.

[Rupture]

Dude, I'm in totally the same position as you but....uhh...HOI vote and you might wanna post this bad boi somewhere else. :P

[Bremner]

in my opinion (not trying to be offensive), the first one kinda sounds like a slut. and i would wait a little longer to see if the second one really likes you. hope i helped.

[Nitemare]

Thanks guys, and yea point taken, but hey, it was worth a shot for some advice from a group of people with a common interest that we all share. And about that slut part, no offense taken and I understand why you think that, but its either that, or she really likes me. I'm not sure yet...

[Fubar65]

Ill try to help. Sounds like girl one is a "hoe fa sho" for lack of a better term, no offense. Girl 2 sounds a little more "classy" for lack of a better word. If you are looking for a girl to fool around with, go for girl 1, I assume you are in high school as you ride the bus, possibly freshman or sophmore, which, from my experiences is way too young for anything serious anyways. If you go girl one, don't be surprised when she's fooling around with other guys behind your back or in front of you for that matter.Anyways its just a high school relationship, so go for girl 1 first, then when you break up move on to girl 2. Get the best of both worlds playa!

[Revan]

Stay away from girls who let you feel them up on the bus. Next thing she will want is for you to start doing things for her, using her "feminine charms" to keep you on a leash. Concentrate on school. Get to be friends with some cool people both boy and girl. Don't worry about women til you start driving. This post reeks of HOI.

[Nitemare]

Heh, thanks guys. And yea, I'm a freshman as well as they are too. If I do go with #1, I'll try to make her stay away from doing other stuff with guys, otherwise it won't work out. As for #2, I'm going to have to step up my game a bit to show her I'm into her. And you're probably right about the HOI part.

[Rupture]

You guys are just freshman and she is doing that? Dude, idc what anybody else says, stay the muff away from her. Number 2 definantly. Don't even look at Number 1!!!!

[Texx]

HOI candidate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely, but let try to be helpful here. :D

First I'm going to lay out some things I feel of are atleast some importance. Then I'm going to describe the situation that both these girls have put me in. And then I'd like for some of you guys to give me some opinions, tips, and ideas. This post is for dating advice for these two girls that I think want me to ask them out. I suppose this post is pointed mainly to the younger generation here, but any advice is great. I've talked to only one friend about this because he's the only one I can fully trust. Thanks to everyone in advance.

First, I'm going to lay out some thing I feel are important. Then, I will explain the true nature of women. Finally, I will explain why this incident is hilarious, worthy of much Lulz. So let's begin. You're welcome, but please take this as advice, free to use as you wish.

Ok well first of all, I'm not the greatest looking guy out there.

At least you're honest with yourself. Women are attracted to many different traits. The most important is honesty. You've got to lie your *** off to get a woman's attention. So any delusions about morality or honesty have got to go. Women like fat bank accounts because (a) it tells them you can buy them worthless garbage they think is cool and (b) it gives them bragging rights to their psychotic woman friends.

Nor am I extremely social or "in-shape". I'm a bit over weight, but not enough to cause concern in my opinion.

These traits are a major No-No in the woman's world. But, just like black guys dig fat white chicks, some girls may feel low self esteem and lower their standards to get a large man to love them. Don't think of yourself as being some great catch, just more along the lines of she doesn't have a high opinion of herself and you will do for the time being.

It's best if you think in terms like a woman. Everything in the relationship is about HER - thoughts, feelings, ability to sleep with your attractive friends. So forget about yourself for now and give her the attention she craves for herself. It may hurt your ego, but when you get a hawt one, its worth some sacrifice.

Gaming has deprived me of my social life and confidence in the real world and my overall health. But now that I'm done with that crap, I'd like to get back to what every teen should be doing, socializing, having a good time, and dating.

OK. Its best to leave all of that out. Tell the woman you were station in Pakistan for the CIA or that you were doing Humanitarian Work with the peace Corp teaching Rawandan children how to read or not get aids or something. Most women would never be caught dead in a ratty third world country because it doesn't fit in with boosting their Ego. And the women who claim to do that...well, many of them are fuglies, who deserve lovin' so you buy them a dog.

Anyway. It is best to craft your lies very carefully. Tell them you were injured by a car bomb or something cool like that. Or maybe that you were sucked into a jet engine on the flight deck and are still having nightmares about how horrible the face of war is. Be careful to not seem to torn up about it, because as women are egomaniacs, they will not want to have to nurse you back to sanity. They just want guy that will do whatever they ask, no matter how mundane it is, but not seem overly pathetic.

Sorry to tell ya this, but your story strikes out on both of those, so work on them.

The first girl I've known for probably 3 or 4 years, the second girl, probably about 4 to 5. I have fallen for both of them, but I am very shy, and get nervous quickly. I'm going to tell you guys some signs I believe they are throwing out to me telling me to take the initiative.

Equally pathetic here. The first girl you know should not be the the one you are trying to bed down. I would at least wait until you ar used to being around women and answering their numerous and quite demanding desires.

Women throw signs. Drunk women throw beer bottles. You see how truly ****ed that is? Dude, don't ever try to impress a woman with obedience. Instead, show them how special they really aren't by ignoring them.

Sincerity is important! While crafting your lies to impress them, make sure they sound sincere enough to impress. Then when you've got them hooked, tell them you like puppies. You don't have to explain that they taste best raw, but its good to show them your finely crafted false soft side.

The first girl, is really getting into it in my opinion. I could however just be paranoid, but once you hear this, you're probably going to agree for the most part. She's a short girl, kind of around 5 '5 or so.

Short women are excellent for all kinds of things - cleaning under coffee tables, walking small pets, and best of all, dancing on tables in a G-String while you push singles under the straps.

Strippers are probably the most honest women you will ever meet. First, they are good looking, or at least after a few beers - great looking. Second, there is never any illusions as to why you and her are there - she is going to rub up against a pole and you are going to shove cash into her panties to help her pay for law school or her pimp or whatever the hell women use money for these days.

I have a theory that women don't use money for anything useful but can be incredibly efficient with it. (a) Use the money to buy more clothes to get more money out of men or (b) pay for various surgeries designed to get more money out of a man.

At the start of the school year, I didn't take much notice to her due to my lack of chance with her, but she is showing things that have changed my mind, so I'll hop right to it. Most of the stuff she has said happens on the bus, because we don't have classes together and she sits in the seat next to me on the other side of the bus.

I see. You have a bus romance going. Let me explain something about a bus romance. What happens on the bus, stays on the bus.

This one time, in eight grade, I was telling dirty jokes to six ninth grade girls and a girl in my class. After making them laugh they took turns talking dirty to me. The evening ended with the touching of boob and it was a good night. The next Monday, they mostly ignored me, except for the band chick, who sat next to me because she played French Horn and they had to sit next to the Baritones and tubas. Well she ignored me for the most part.

Again, girls are women in training to learn how to play a guy. They learn at this age how to shake their caboose to make guys happy. Its all a big scam. Guys are too stupid not to watch a woman shake her but and boobs. Don't believe me? Ahem...strippers...

After the first week of school passed, she started flirting, then kept going deeper and deeper. She would constantly compliment me about random things, over and over again, laughing, making random conversation with me. Then she started saying things like your shirt is gettin me goin, aka turning her on. As you can see, shes messing with me, but she was funny about the whole thing.

The most dirty thing you will ever hear in your life will likely come out of a woman's mouth. Forget about joking with the guys at games about that sexy goat. Women are naturally perverted and most will burn in hell.

Its best if you just put that out of your mind for now. Its a fantasy and women use it to milk guys of their sanity and cash.

She would continue doing this and got more serious. She started talking about the sexual parts of her body and things like that. About a week and a half ago, she asked me if I loved her. This really sent my nervousness over the edge, I simply gave her a thumbs up because I was really starting to like her. Things continued, then she asked me to smell her shirt, she basically got really close in her chest area, if you catch my drift. She had other guys smell her shirt too, but she pushed her shirt out really far so they wouldn't get nearly as close as I did.

I don't catch your drift at all. A girl asks you to smell her and now you think you've got something special? You poor bastard.

Next week, she was messing with her friend that sits with her before I got on the bus. She was messing around with her chest area, and asked her friend to do it. Her friend kept saying no, then she said, find I'll just have (my name here) do it. Her friend told me this once I got on the bus, and (girl who is doing all this) was really embarrased that her friend told me. A few days later, when we were getting off the bus, we got up, she was infront of me, and pushed her behind into my crotch on purpose... The next day, she wanted me to feel her legs. She also dropped her phone on the floor and asked me to get it and was positioned in a way that would force me to "upskirt" her. In the past shes done random things to me, but not nearly as serious as these things.

IF you want a clinical answer.

Young girls are just as curious about their own sexuality as guys are. Their bodies are changing and they are thinking thoughts they have never had before. And to them, sex is the great unknown. Then they learn they can use sex to get guys to do anything they want, which is wrong. Very very wrong in so many ways I cannot give you enough reasons.

She has chosen you as her safety net. She is trying to see how different things affect you, but she knows you're too shy to act on them.

There is a solution. Its called alcohol. Drink alot of it and your shyness will disappear. And you will impress her.

The only reason I am having hesitation is that she talks to a lot of guys, but I'm the only one I've seen her do these things to. No other guy I've seen around her has she done anything even close. She could be trying to make me jealous but I'm not sure...

Nah. She doesn't think anything of your feeling, you are her play thing. She probably thinks your gay. Prove her wrong by taking the upper hand.

When I was your age, I showed a tease like her a few things. Mostly pictures my sister had of her in the locker room. And I posted them on the net for all to see.

After that, she respected me.

The next girl is also pretty short. She talks to me a lot on the bus, and also in person. She hasn't done anything physical to show me any signs, just a lot of chit-chat and some other things. Whenever someone on the bus would do something to make her laugh, she'd turn over at me and broaden her smile and things like that. She also makes a lot of solid eye contact along with the face gestures. Whenever I see her in person, she always says hi, no matter where I am at. Even when with friends, I'm the only person she says hi to. I always say hi back, but yesterday when I saw her, she kept repeating it until I acknowledged her. She does a lot of "hair-flipping" and says things that might make me think her appearence was "bad" although I barely take notice, for example, "My shoes are dirty" or "I couldn't straighten my hair this morning". She also talks to me quite a bit more than other guys, and those she does talk to, they ask her out and she always says no to them. I have yet to try it myself though because I am too nervous plus I don't really want to risk our friendship that we have until I know she wants to take it farther 100%.

To be honest, I was kind of bored during this paragraph, so I'm gonna give something to help me through this part.

Doc raised the shotgun and shoved it into Louie the Big's face, cracking two of his teeth in the process.

"Don't shoot Doc or its the curtains for the girl, Needles and Max will rub the dame out."

"I'm sorry, Louie, but that dame don't mean nothin' to me. And I'm gonna blast ya good for what ya did to Jimmy Fingers.."

"I'll see you in hell Doc. That dolled up dame will be there waiting for ya too..."


BLAMMMM!


"Yeah."

All in all, I'm pretty confused and stressed. I haven't had a girlfriend in a long time, and these are the two that I like the most, and that are showing the most interest in me. So please, tell me what you guys think, and if you can, provide me some tips on what to do. Thanks.

I think you're pathetic. Women are egomaniacal monsters. Why the hell would any sane guy want one? They love ruining the lives of decent guys and you should just leave them alone. Chances are, if you stood up for yourself, they would lose interest in you.

So here's some advice.

Ditch the dirty broads, wait until your 19, and hook up with a 34 year single mom. They will teach you things about women. And they know how to make a guy happy. At least, thats what a few of them keep telling me.

Chances are, women just know how to keep a guy thinkin' he's happy. But its a fairytale, where they are the princess and you're the lug who gets stuck making their fairy kingdom.

Hookers. You give them your money. they give you a few moments of happiness. Then you go home. The way it was meant to be.

BTW, I will close this one down as it is not really appropriate banter.