conquest

[airsoft31]

this is for the people whe were talking about conquest in the fran bar post so feel free to continue the talk here.

and if this is in the wrong forum please move it:)

[Motis]

I cant find that original fran bar post, was it the one about cleaning it up? I just wanted to see what people said in it.

anyhow, Im really curious as to how much it really cost to keep conquest running. I believe I was told that the owner wouldnt mind having it up and running again and the feild is already set up to play. If only there was someone with time that could step up and run it again. The only problem is the cost, especially with the school year starting up again.

[BLACK SE7EN]

Conquest is dead and has had it's funarel. What else is there to talk about?

[TheBanker]

Saying it's dead isn't accurate. The facility is still intact, and if the owners found someone who was willing to give it a go, we would see it open again. I'm not sure it's ultimately profitable though. There aren't enough airsofters to support a dedicated field, particularly an urban field with higher land value. As much as I don't care for paintball, having the field open to both crowds (segregated of course) is the only way I see it making any money.

[Lone Panther]

If anyone really wanted to take up Conquest again you should know that there were vandals destroying bunkers knocking over sandbags ect. Just want you to know what you're in for.

[widowmaker]

I have spoke with the landlord at Conquest . Im going up Sunday to see what the fields look like .

[Zero]

Nice widowmaker. If you do decide to re-open the field, I'd like to come out and help set up. I can help place sandbags and bunkers or whatever else there is to do. I'm glad to hear you are looking into it.

[Rupture]

If the field gets re-opened, I'll definantly help out, too. I hope it gets re-opened!!

[airsoft31]

yyyyyyaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy that would be sooo sweet

[Arc-Angel]

I think it would be a great idea for someone to try to get conquest back up and running we dont have any place to play here in central ohio.

[Rupture]

I would definantly help out with a conquest re-opening...and I would come to every game, seeing as how I live in Mansfield and that isn't a very far drive. and yeah, I think it should be open to airsoft and paintball, so it will make more money that way.

[stewb_10]

just throwing this out there, but if i'd have known that conquest was in danger of closing, i would have definitely made it out to support. I was actually organizing a group of 20 or so the week that i found out it was closing. I dont know how many people i speak for, but i think we REALLY need a field in the Columbus area. If it takes donations to keep it going, ill give them.

[seals]

if conquest goes up again, i will most definetly be there

[stewb_10]

i think the issue is that many of us will say that, but the organizers are skeptical on whether we will actually do it. i'm bringing a new guy into the sport, so i would really like a close field, we will get out a lot more. he just isn't ready to run with phalanx at, say BF5. in order to get him ready, and build trust in him, we definitely need consistent outings.

[Arc-Angel]

I would definatley come. We just got into airsoft and bought our gear and finally got good guns then the field closed and i was pissed i would help get it back up

[British]

it think if it does start up again it would probably be better to be a once a month thing as opposed to once a week so as to help keep costs down and to make more people come since it's only one out of 4 weeks. just my two cents.

[dcorr68]

I agree with bubbaplay on this. Its prbably a lot more cost efficient to just run a once a month open play and perhaps once in larger scale event. That will keep people interested and willing to go.

[GeneralSpikey]

if the field does open back up i would be happy to come help repair it
especially any electrical

[Zero]

I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter how many times a month they use it. He's still going to be paying rent for it either way. The thing that led to Conquest's downfall, and some other people have said this before, was that there weren't big enough events. There isn't much you can do because the field isn't TOO big, but there are some scenario's that I have thought of.

One team could defend the factory, and another team has to assault from the woodland. If we could get some cover in between the two, I think that could be a great scenario.

Another could be this. One team starts in the woods, and the other team in the Sniper Field. The latter team would have to work it's way back through the woods and eventually to the green bunker and plant a bomb and defend it. The other team tries to defend and defuse.

I'd be willing to help out a lot at the field setting things up and doing whatever has to be done. It sounds like there is a lot of support from people saying they will come and help out. The next step (if Widow does decide to re-open it) would be for everyone to come out and actually do the work. It doesn't help if you say you will come then never show.

[stewb_10]

Agreed. I think the problem is the consistent cost associated with keeping the land. Payments, insurance, general maintenance, and other costs that HAVE to be taken care of, whether its being used or not.

Not to mention the time..

[Falcon]

[QUOTE=battlefield savior;176527]
One team could defend the factory, and another team has to assault from the woodland. If we could get some cover in between the two, I think that could be a great scenario.
[QUOTE]

As do I, the problem: safe parking.

[Spectre]

For what its worth, I never had the chance to travel to Conquest. Most of the games held where either during time I couldnt make it or other games took place. I would though, make an effort to make it out to any games in the future. It sounds like to me, Conquest offers true variety. And in my opinion, that justifies the 1-1.5 hour drive for me.

[Rupture]

i would come to every game...im a noob eager to play, who just got into airsoft, a this field is only 45 mins away from me, so ill always be there

[airsoft31]

One team could defend the factory, and another team has to assault from the woodland. If we could get some cover in between the two, I think that could be a great scenario.

we already basickly did that the only difference is thy woild start on the yellow "road block" or whaterever that is and just ust the cars and dumpsters for cover. and sometines they would have snipers on the roof:D

[Caleb Schuster]

Conquest was great I even bought a shield and painted it to look like a riot sheild just for that place I also bought two gernades that really work best indoors and now I don't have a place to use them. I was up there ever month even though it is a bit of a drive for me it was worth it on Saturdays, no one else has the balls to run a full auto indoor course.

[Mavrick]

no one else has the balls to run a full auto indoor course.

They do it in West Virginia every year and its one of the funnest games i've ever been to.

[strikers_blade]

Since when do you have to shoot full auto at people's face to have fun or have balls?

p.s. Yes, I am trying to get a point across....

[Mavrick]

Blade,

those that have respect for their fellow players got that point years ago ;)

[Firefox]

If conquest opens up again i'll definatley be up there (depending on my football schedule though) The biggest problem however with building the bunkers and things of nature up again as some have suggested would be the vandals that are up there as lone panther mentioned. They knock over sandbags kick-in sides of the wood buildings, ect... Myself, saquatch, pudd, ranger, and who ever else was with us that sunday remembers the kids on bikes that we caught riding around near the wood pallets correct? those are the people that I am talking about and I think that would be one of the biggest hurdles to overcome if and when conquest does re open. And the fact that if it is going to be re opened to have open plays on a regular basis that it may have to be multi theatered (piantball and airsoft) to keep it open may be a possiblility that we have to accpet.(although I dont see it being too much of a problem) There are some roadblocks to get through but overall I'm just happy for the fact that another great airsoft field may be re opened. Just letting everyone know what we are in for if and when conquest does re open.

[Siegfried]

If conquest needs any banners made, feel free to PM me. I believe we can get something made for a very small cost.

Also I agree as reguards to the place being open to both groups, ofcorse have paintball one weekend, airsoft the next.

Also attacking/defending the factory would go over quite well...make a larger playing field. Also holding large scale events would be pretty boss to.

[Falcon]

Once again: safe parking.

[sniperlegend09]

put up a fence/net like they do at speedball courses /golfcourses around the cars with a small web size... all it would take is some PVC poles and the netting if it was to be done the cheap way but a designated parking area would have to be reserved... idk if there is already a parking lot since i have not played there but it sounds like it would be a great place to play if it is reopened and a thing like parking should not be what holds a good scenario friom being played..

anyways id for sure be there to help and play if it does re open because a close field is a good field!

[Phil]

Uh, in case nobody noticed, there is a parking lot directly adjacent to the facility. This parking lot is in fact owned by the same person who owns the property conquest sits on.

Further more, this may work out better, because I know they had problems with people sneaking on to the field without paying or having waivers from time to time, and if they were to utilize this parking lot, they could use the gated fence seperating the two to collect money and waivers as people stepped onto the field, and easily be able to turn away those who didn't have either of the above.
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Conquest is in fact a great facility it isn't necesarily the best field, due to some ownership problems. If they could sort out their staff (don't want point fingers) to be a little more focused on the business than their own playing, then they might have a bit more success next time around. All in all, I would be happy to see conquest reopen, as long as it started on the right foot this time around, and if, Widowmaker, you choose to read this, shoot me a PM and I'd be glad to talk all my assessments over with you.

Although, conquest had a lot of problems past vadalism and parking, take, for example, their complete ignoring of the milsim community. How many events were hosted there...3? Shadowsword, thanks to Loki, is the only milsim game there that comes to mind. Outbreak and one other were also there neither of which were really milsim. Although, Outbreak was fun as hell, it didn't have a very big pull. If they could get someone who would host one big event there every month or every other month, i'd bet thay'd see their numbers come a few shades closer to black.

[Falcon]

Ah, I did not know that was owned by the field owner. That changes things.

[Phil]

Yeah, that thing right between the two driveways is his house.

[airsoft31]

never knew that

[Mavrick]

put up a fence/net like they do at speedball courses /golfcourses around the cars with a small web size... all it would take is some PVC poles and the netting if it was to be done the cheap way but a designated parking area would have to be reserved... idk if there is already a parking lot since i have not played there but it sounds like it would be a great place to play if it is reopened and a thing like parking should not be what holds a good scenario friom being played..

anyways id for sure be there to help and play if it does re open because a close field is a good field!

airsoft bbs can go through most paintball nets.

[sniperlegend09]

airsoft bbs can go through most paintball nets.

would a smaller webbing work?

[airsoft31]

i don't see why not

[stewb_10]

i like how were planning what to do when conquest re-opens with zero indication from the owners that its even a slight possibility.. unless i'm missing something.

[sniperlegend09]

I have spoke with the landlord at Conquest . Im going up Sunday to see what the fields look like .

i like how were planning what to do when conquest re-opens with zero indication from the owners that its even a slight possibility.. unless i'm missing something.

there u go :D

[widowmaker]

Lots of great ideas here . To bad most wont work .
If i reopen ill only be open maybe twice a month .
Landlord doesnt want me to use the parking behind his house .
No paintball still .
Im not spending any more money out of my pocket for the place . The netting you guys are talking about . Last time i priced it the cheapest i found it was 2 grand a roll .
I will not have anyone working for me out there . Two reasons . The guy i had last time is a buddie and he didnt do what he was paid to do . Plus so many rules were broke the landlord will not let the place open without me there .
I will hold one event per month that will be milsim . I might not lay it out to where everyone knows everything thats going to happen that day . But they will be milsim . Ill still have a open play once a month also .

[airsoft31]

that sounds cool

[Phil]

Landlord doesnt want me to use the parking behind his house .


'Scuse me for being nosy...but why not? He doesn't want to see oru ugly mugs out of his windows?

[Evil Head]

Widowmaker, pre-pay events might be your best option. I know there are plenty of players saying that they are going to come and then not show. Require pre-pay with no refunds. If eveyone is serious, then they with poney up the money and show up. Otherwise too bad.

[airsoft31]

that is a great idea

[Phil]

For the events that is definitely a good Idea. Good thinking, EvilHead

[stewb_10]

I cant wait. I hope this happens soon..

[airsoft31]

don't we all :)

[strikers_blade]

So they said.....

[stewb_10]

oh franc, have faith in your fellow airsofters. if nothing else, i hope this will scare some of us in the central ohio area into going just to keep it around.

i for one like a close field. fran bar gave me my start.

i just hope this enthusiasm will transfer from the forum to the field.

[hkrazy]

I also loved Fran Bar with all my heart... Even after that 4 by 4 fell on my head...

I also agree that one good milsim game a month would be worth supporting. I will not be playing any Saturday games due to sports until october, but I will do my best.

[Siegfried]

Once a month would work better for us all...it basically funnels everyone instead of having spotty weekends.

Just don't do it the day springfield has a game.

[airsoft31]

yes because i thing most people only made it out there about once a month even if it was open every weekend:)

[stewb_10]

I also think that it lost its allure to some people because they were expecting 10 person games. that's why i was trying to organize a group of 10-15 with hkrazy and the juggernauts, and hopefully he was going to talk to the 91st. if it wasn't working for him, id just wait until the next weekend. i have no problem going without friends if i know 30 more people are going to be there. he's not that good anyway ;).

[Motis]

I know alot of players didnt show due to other events that seemed like they drew people away from the weekly play because they knew it would still be there when they returned. Planning games around larger games could help.

[Mr. Black]

YAY for Conquest!!!!

Im soooooo ready for a game.

[airsoft31]

mr. black do you think that you will have your pistol only games again?

[strikers_blade]

oh franc, have faith in your fellow airsofters. if nothing else, i hope this will scare some of us in the central ohio area into going just to keep it around.

i for one like a close field. fran bar gave me my start.

i just hope this enthusiasm will transfer from the forum to the field.

As you mentioned, let's hope forum enthusiasm will transfer into real numbers this time. Everyone wants a field with CQB or wood or close to home or with XYZ players but then when an event is available, here comes the football schedule, the girlfriend, the school, the grandma party, etc.

I am not sure if you guys realize but running a field is not as easy as it sounds and unfortunately, the online community have the tendancy to give false expectation to the "future" organizer and you usually end up pissing him off and make him quit.

With Conquest, both organizer and player are to be blamed for the first attempt. Let's hope you all took a lesson from it and if it has to open again, you will not do the same mistake. So far, the community doesn't seem to have learn of it ;)

[stewb_10]

I agree. Very good points.

[makkyo]

I'd be excited (along with everybody else) if conquest were to reopen. Springfield a pretty long drive for most people in the Columbus area.

[Grease Man]

I'd be excited (along with everybody else) if conquest were to reopen. Springfield a pretty long drive for most people in the Columbus area.

A one hour drive for a top notch field is not really that bad. It just becomes expensive if you do it every weekend.

[Siegfried]

A one hour drive for a top notch field is not really that bad. It just becomes expensive if you do it every weekend.

I second this. Conquest is great, but compared to a field almost four times the size, with three towns, and woodland terrain, plus a French/Canadian...yeah the hour is well worth it.

[stewb_10]

The only thing that makes it worth it is the french-canadian and his questionable jokes.. :D good times.

[Siegfried]

Its hostage, not ostrich.

[Locutus]

compared to a field almost four times the size, with three towns, and woodland terrain, plus a French/Canadian...yeah the hour is well worth it.

The accent alone makes it worthwhile! :D

[Texx]

Frank has an accent?

Why doesn't he type with an accent?

[stewb_10]

Because he would have to learn to type in english before he could type in english with an accent.

Baby steps. ;)

[hkrazy]

Wait... Not that good? We'll plot my G3 when its back at 37 a second against your little SR thingy and we shall see Stew... We shall see...

(Insert random French Canadian joke here)

Perhaps we should take an inventory of all milsim airsofters here in central ohio. I have a farm in Fredricktown at my disposal, and we are working on the old armory building here in Mount Vernon. Perhaps we shall have some invite games to see how this can work.

[Clutch]

I hope it comes back. This is the only place for me to play.

[Mavrick]

I hope it comes back. This is the only place for me to play.

you really should broaden your horizon

[airsoft31]

yea guzzo broaden you horizon :)

[Zero]

we already basickly did that the only difference is thy woild start on the yellow "road block" or whaterever that is and just ust the cars and dumpsters for cover. and sometines they would have snipers on the roof:D
Alright, well who wants their car to get shot with 400fps weapons.

The answer would be to have everyone park on the corner of the parking lot that is out of the AO.

[airsoft31]

so widow how did the field look?

[airsoft31]

has anyone heard anything at all about conquest?

[Zero]

Be patient.

[widowmaker]

I spoke with the landlord . We worked out a number that should be ok for both of us . I have not had a chance to look at the field yet . The landlord did tell me he had not changed anything . So im guessing its like i left it .
Not sure when im going to have a game out there . As always time is hard to come by .

[Zero]

Alright!!!
When you do decide to go work on the field PM me and as I said before, I'll come out and help clean/set it up.

Thanks.

[Firefox]

This just made my day. Glad to hear ill get to play at conquest again in the near future.

[DemonKhan]

I have been absent from AO since Conquest died. I will be there if it reopens. CobraKhan will most likely be there also. I really miss playing airsoft. I have not played since it closed.

[airsoft31]

that is sick!!!!!!

[airsoft31]

sorry to be a pest and bring up an old post but i want to get a new gun. i don't want to spend the money unles it is truely opening.

so i was just wondering if that meant that it is truely going to reopen or just get talked about?

[Lone Panther]

he said it will reopen like battlefield savior said be patiet

[Clutch]

Widowmaker, pre-pay events might be your best option. I know there are plenty of players saying that they are going to come and then not show. Require pre-pay with no refunds. If eveyone is serious, then they with poney up the money and show up. Otherwise too bad.

I think that would be the best option. Telling people you are going and then not showing up just isn't cool.