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M4 sniper
08-04-2003, 04:06 PM
why do all the sites put fps wrong it saif my m4 went 350. And alos which is better Ca m4T or IS mp5s

stargate6
08-04-2003, 04:10 PM
That's cause your CA M4T does shoot 350fps...it has a 170% spring.
I must say both guns are horrible, CA M4T and ICS MP5s. Instead, look into CA Armalites and AirsoftElite MP5s, they have better quality control on those lines. And don't buy from Jungletoy, retailers like Combat Depot are almost similarily priced but with quality service. JungleToy is like buying from eBay, cheap and unreliable.

M4 sniper
08-04-2003, 04:13 PM
I buy from jungletoy because its the cheapest place that I found i researched and my friend bought from airsplat.

Fox
08-04-2003, 08:20 PM
They also have the worst customer service...

bnb5550
08-06-2003, 07:50 PM
three words m4sniper: LEARN TO SPELL
also learn to use proper english such as periods

JayKay
08-06-2003, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by bnb5550
three words m4sniper: LEARN TO SPELL
also learn to use proper english such as periods

2 words for bnb5550 DONT TROLL

Retailers will skew their FPS #'s in order to sell their guns. It's easy to make a springer shoot over 300 FPS...if you use .12g bb's...

Which is why you can't really trust completly reviews on retailer sites duto the fact you ahve to remember that they are still trying to sell their product

bnb5550
08-06-2003, 08:04 PM
troll? what the hell is that? im just kinda sick of n00bs coming here saying:
omg what gun r0x0rs i want a 1337 gun blah blah blah
in one big runon sentece that takes 3 hours to try and decipher it

Nitrous
08-06-2003, 08:09 PM
I must say both guns are horrible, CA M4T and ICS MP5s

While I agree with you that CA guns leave something to be desired (coughcough quality control coughcough), I have had quite some experience with the new ICS MP5s, and must say, they left me quite impressed. They come with a metal body stock, as well as shoot around 310-320fps out of the box.
That, and we sell them at Airsoft Arms for only $259.99, they cannot be beat. They are the only MP5s (minus the RAS) that I would ever even consider buying, as I just don't like the Marui-s.
But yes, generally, CA guns are garbage, except for the M24 which I kinda like :).

JayKay
08-06-2003, 08:21 PM
I had an ICS MP5A4 V2 that was a great gun, no problems besides the cocking handle snapping off (HK Slap Happy..).

bnb5500

Trolling = Posting negative stuff that doesnt contribute or help the thread. If you can't stand deciphering the post, then dont respond to it and move along.

stargate6
08-06-2003, 09:54 PM
That may very well be, but the Classic Army Armalites are not garbage. So far the gun seems to be flawless. I'd buy a Armalite any time of day over a ICS gun. ICS has worse quality control than CA.

Static
08-07-2003, 02:07 AM
The whole fps thing you were crying about, there is a standared. For instance all fps on combatdepot are tested with regular .2 bbs ( no person that plays airsoft uses .12 unless they are retarted in an aeg). You als said dont buy from combatdepot even though thye have the best customer service around. I would also recommend getting a Tm aeg over any other because they are of much better quality. I can say this and back it up cause I have a Tm and it is amazing. The whole stock thing, not many people use stock guns, if you buy a Tm all you do is buy an m100 spring and u at 350.

AllenTC2
08-07-2003, 03:54 PM
I have an AE MP5SD5 V3, it was supposed to shoot in the 350-360 neighborhood.

But noooooooooooo, I get a hot one! Average over ten shots...397 fps!!:confused: There goes my "all-purpose" gun!!!!

Deviant
08-07-2003, 04:26 PM
I have a VERY nice block of white cheddar and some TownHouse crackers to go with that WHINE Allen!:D

Get a stock TM box and slap it in there for the LIMITED times you will be CQB or outdoor. Most of your play will be outdoor anyway and around 400 is an ideal FPS!

Good lord....I hate it when grown men cry.....PATHETIC:rolleyes:

skitelluride531
08-07-2003, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by bnb5550
three words m4sniper: LEARN TO SPELL
also learn to use proper english such as periods

Before you tell someone to use periods, why don't you and try to use peroiods your self?

turbo3926
08-07-2003, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by bnb5550
troll? what the hell is that? im just kinda sick of n00bs coming here saying:
omg what gun r0x0rs i want a 1337 gun blah blah blah
in one big runon sentece that takes 3 hours to try and decipher it

you shouldnt be talking about newbies, you are one yourself. and if u want proper grammar in a message board, make your own because there is never going to be proper grammar in a public message board!!!!!!!

Deviant
08-07-2003, 11:12 PM
I believe the original mood of this thread was ask about different guns vs FPS readings. I didnt know it was a spelling-bee.

Those of you that have nothing better to do that check other posters punctuation and spelling need to go do it at another board and leave the replies to players who actually have something worthwhile to say in relationship to the topic at hand.

As from a previous post...

I would venture to say that the gun has a PDI 140% instead of 170%. 170% will yield almost 400 FPS and even MORE THAN that at times by itself....much less with spring guide and TN barrel. :eek: I would do a personal search for the type of gun you have and the various upgrade components that others, with your same weapon style/manufacturer, have found when taking their variant apart.

Personally, I LOVE PDI springs but they have been known to chrono WAYYY HIGHER than what they have been hypothetically estimated at. I recently installed a PDI 140% in a G36 then installed another 140% in another G36 and the first one chronoed 370+ after install and the second at 355 after install.:confused: That goes to show you that REGARDLESS the upgrade you are NEVER guaranteed the same or even the hypothetical results. ;)

skitelluride531
08-07-2003, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by Deviant
I believe the original mood of this thread was ask about different guns vs FPS readings. I didnt know it was a spelling-bee.

Those of you that have nothing better to do that check other posters punctuation and spelling need to go do it at another board and leave the replies to players who actually have something worthwhile to say in relationship to the topic at hand...




Amen to that Deviant, its people like bnb who make me not want to come back to these forums.