Classic Army AK47?!?!?!??

[skitelluride531]

I recently heard about a Classic Army AK47 over at Airsoft Retreat!! Is this true? Does any one know anything about it? Such as when it will be released...how much it will cost? I cant wait for it!! Also does Classic Army have a website?

[Gooch]

wow
if its got good internals i would buy one

[ArmyHummer]

Its only a rumor. Not really sure though. They could or couldn.t It was only suggested because they make ak metal reciever and a few parts for the AK. So it might happen.

[Agent 47]

then again, they also make G3 parts....could we be looking at a full metal G3A3?







dont think so:rolleyes: :o :(

[skitelluride531]

alright thanks for the info, although i have seen the picture of the prototype so i think it could be more than a rumor.

[Fox]

i'd like to see this picture.

The only prototype gun they have released is the G36c.

Weird huh?

[Tripod]

stole this pic from Airsoft Retreat (shhh don't tell.....)

Shows some weird dude holding an all black AK 47 (well DUH, you can't be blind......)


http://www.katana-tv.it/images/FNSA03/DSCN0310.JPG

[ArmyHummer]

And yea, its been thought that once Classic Army slowly rebuilds to get a Rep. as TM does, and gets more various guns out, they could start doing a G3 soon after an AK. The secret is to touch on juts about everywhere for everyones tastes. Then build from there up to make more versions.

[Jacko]

Yeah, that picture doesn't mean much. If I held up an M249 under a Tokyo Marui banner, does that mean that TM is making one? no, not at all.

[DeltaSniper]

Even if this is the case... think about how long it took for those first CA M16 variants to come out. the date was pushed back, and pushed backj, and pushed back... and when it finally came out, it was a crap product. CA, in my experience, typically take a few tries to get something right.

Dont get your hopes up on an quick release or qaulity initial product, if this is in fact going to happen.

[Tripod]

I would like to say that I only posted that picture because I thought someone asked for it.... I could care less if an AK 47 comes out by CA because I won't buy it. But DeltaSniper, they shouldn't have to go through several tries with new guns, they have already done that to get from what I hear a good gun

[ArmyHummer]

Tripod im pretty sure they are telling the guy that started this thread basically not to get his hopes up. If anyone knows me, they know I will never buy CA property period. TM all the way, even if I do have to buy a g3 metal reciever :D

[Fox]

I never knew they even made AK receivers... Not like i would buy one any ways...

DTP All the way.


I would be semi-impressed if they made maybe an AK-74 series instead of the AK-47 series.

Note... im confused about something else... why would they put black stocks on the AK-47? To me... thats retarded... considering MOST _Real_ AK-47s had wood. (Till the later models in the 60's. then they started turning sythetic... then the AK-74 series came out... and in the late 70's all standard stocks were sythetic.)

I would also be impressed if they made their model off of the stamped receiver unlike TM's which is modeled off of one of the 147 or so milled receivers.

Any ways... i know too much about AKs... ill stop talking.

[snipe]

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/beta/html/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=572


They are working on a prototype of both the AK47 and G36C. AK is full metal and G36 is made of fiber reinforced polymer material.

[uglynerd]

im with foxtrot. the milled ak is rare and I dont understand why you would even manufacture something that uncommon. I would be impressed if ca took the initative to make an ak47 with the dimpled buttstock and the classic look of the stamped reciever, and put the sling latch on the butt like a real stamped ak... etc etc. this gun is just like maruis. To me that dissapoints me because There is so much potential with so little external body work to achieve a look that is truly breathtaking. I truly do not like the black stocks either. althouhg this is a prototype and all this may very well change, black stocks are good on a spetz but an ak should have wood stocks. it just loses something when you get black stocks.

[D_Man]

Hmm, I was thinkin...

Since CA guns tend to try for more realism in their outer construction, i.e. Metal bodied M16 series and special fiber material body for their G36c, Maybe, just maybe, their AK series will come standard with wood stocks and grips?

Could be interesting to see that and would definately up their appeal. :D

[Fox]

From the picture, they look like black sythetic. Which is one of the things i was *****ing about in my earlier posts.


To me, that totally destorys the look of an AK. But then again, I don't like M16s, or M4's or any thing like that very much because they are made out of sythetics.

[ArmyHummer]

I doubt real wood furniture. Its possible, but I cant see it happening within reason. Can get pricey, and I can see people *****ing now about bad wood on a gun, with so many to make, your gonna run into problems with stuff like that. Fake is much easier and cheaper and faster. Synthetic type plastic stocks, I could see as well. But i doubt they will, as they are trying to be more TM ghosts it seems. So I really dont have a preference though.

[Shifty]

What would impress me is if Classic Army decided to make their own original seriers of guns(like the FAL or FNC, of hell ANYTHING), instead of just ripping of Marui designs.

[stargate6]

The picture is just a rough prototype of the Ak47, doesn't mean anything at this point. Here's an email from CA:
We haven't confirmed the materials for our upcoming AK47. Please keep visiting our website as we will announce this when we have the decision.

I'm predicting that CA will make a G3 series gun after they conclude their G36c and Ak47 line. I think they'll have a lot less revisions than they did with the M16/M15s. I believe their new guns will be more reliable, having learned from previous mistakes in their M16/M4 lines. But they'll probably develop new issues, ones that are not present on the M16/M15s.

CA releases their guns prematurily, they need to hold off on mass production and do extensive beta testing on them first.

I really don't see any point in releasing a G36c. TM recently released theirs...what possible advantage can CA get over the TM's version? It's not like you can stick a metal body on the G36c, or reinforced one-piece outter barrel.

I think the CA AK47 will be a hot seller for Classic Army, unlike the G36c. If CA makes a G3 series AEG, that too probably would be a hot seller. CA has always made parts for AKs and G3s, so it's reasonable for them to make their version of the gun as well. But like I said, the idea of a CA G36c is ridiculous.

Imagine a Classic Army M1 or M14 AEG. That would be a hot seller. Not only do the words 'Classic Army' and 'M1 Carbine' fit perfectly together, it's also a great idea.

[Fox]

Actully it wouldnt surprise me if classic army royally screws up their AK-47 design as well.

Considering it has a TOTALLY different motor, and gear box design then an m16/m4, or an Mp5.


I would think, with that in mind, either the G36c or the AK-47 or both, from classic army, will have some very bad problems. Probably in the motor design and gear box.

[ArmyHummer]

Just wanted to post a quick update, CA released their AK-47 magazine, you can get them on WGC currently, I don't see them anywhere else. Holding 70 rounds and looking to me just like TM's. Another step closer to their Ak.......

[Blade]

Armyhummer,

Correction, www.combatdepot.com will have them pretty soon.

http://www.combatdepot.com/viewproductdetail.php?ProdID=100092&=58689eacae90833d19bee815f3c9cc1d

[uglynerd]

well looks like CA is taking on the version 3 gearbox. looks like if they get this working and off the ground your looking at probably a g36c. I really am dissapointed though. with all that potential I dont see why CA wouldnt use half their minds and make somehting unique and not just a TM rip off. what would it cost to mold it the mags into the ribbed akm mags, or make it a solid steel version of the resin mags. let alone that would sell like wildfire. tweak up the ak, do anything to it and CA would make tons more money. instead all they do is ripoff marui. if they made a stamped reciever ak i know tons of people that would snap to attention upon hearing the news.

[Blade]

uglynerd,

Why CA should risk an enormous fiasco while they know the AK, M16 and other like these will sell?

When you go with something that nobody has, it become very risky and I'm pretty sure TM is taking enormous risk by launching guns that way. No wonder why they keep releasing variant of their actual series....better chances to sell.

Remember the PSG1 or the M1A1? For a while, it was about to be a big failure.....

[Goober]

Foxtrot-
We've already had this discussion before about the probability of Classic Army messing up the V3 gearbox.
(reference http://www.airsoftohio.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=426&highlight=ca)

My guess would be that the new gearbox will have decent chances of going through unscathed since this gearbox will be going into BOTH the G36 series and AK47 series that they're coming out with. The AK and G36 represent CA's attempt to become a big player in the production of airsoft AEG's. While they may not be new weapons (aka TM repeats), they will be another source of AEG's in general.

In the end, I'm just going to sit back, relax, and see what happens. Nothing else we can do.

[skitelluride531]

with the classic army AK47 magazine, will it work with the AK Tokyo Mauri. If not why would they make it before they make the gun?

[ArmyHummer]

It SHOULD work with the TM ak-47, but you may experience problems, jamming, or the like.

[Fox]

Just a general question... from my opinion.

Why get so exicted about CA AK-47 mags? I mean... there not special at all.

Secondly... Why get excited about ANY *STD* or High-Cap AK-47 mag... when G&P Will PROBABLY rlelease an AK-47 mag in 2 months or so. Im more excited about that, as well as G&P's possibility of designing multiple different AK-47/74/10x series mags using the same internals/top (Yes,I know its incorrect, but close enough for airsoft.). They would sell just as well, and gives some veration.


And for general AK info, Ribbed mags were, and still are, the standard design from russia for the AK-47 mags, why? made them stronger and less resistant to dents. (From what i've read.)

[skitelluride531]

who said we were getting excited? In my original post i was talking about the actual gun not the magazine, the magazine just happened to come up in the discussion.

[Fox]

I was answering post about the mags... iF you didnt notice...


I already posted my professional opinion on these guns a while back if you look back.

[skitelluride531]

ahh yes...my bad

[grunt]

http://www.classicarmyitalia.com/

there is an AK-47 on the front page

[ArmyHummer]

Geeze, how the heck did you get that. Someone needs to send this to ArniesAirsoft because I dont think this link is quite popular or known.

[grunt]

it was on ArniesAirsoft something about the new M15s

[grunt]

go to this site too.......http://www.classicarmy.com/