Youtube, Google...when will the videos end?

[browning]

As of late, it seems that nearly every two or three topics in General Discussion are some sort of video off of Youtube or Google that ridicules somebody about how stupid or unsafe they are with airsoft guns. Frankly, I'm getting tired of having to sift through these video threads just to get to any of the important topics. Everybody knows that there are videos of people doing stupid things with airsoft guns on Youtube and Google, and most everybody on this forum knows what proper behavior with an airsoft gun should be, so why do we have to continually post video after video ridiculing the "airsoft safety" challenged?...All it does is waste valuable forum space where much more relevant topics could be posted....

So with that out of the way, I would like to know if maybe a new rule could be instituted limiting or outright banning users from posting these worthless videos on here unless it's absolutely necessary?

Just a thought...

[gmaximus]

We have dedicated 'stupid video' and 'stupid picture' threads for people to post that crap in at another forum I use.

[Texx]

I have to agree with Browning. Posting stupid videos doesn't promote responsible behavior and seems to only generate more stupid videos. I would much rather see videos posted that shows gun operation, maintenance, and basics and leave the stupidity to someone else. I mean, just because other forums put up with posting them doesn't mean this one has to.

[Evil Head]

I don't know to which videos your are refering, but I most recently posted video of someone having an airsoft BB surgically removed from their head. It may serve as a lesson to some who think it's funny to shoot someone at close range with a high FPS. As to the post where people are shooting their LCD monitors with an airsoft gun, yes this is pointless and serves no purpose. I think this sort of attitude torward restricting ones freedom to post what they want is heading down the wrong path. This is a public forum and players in good standing have the right to post what they want within the set guidelines. Although, I am in favor of warning those who continue to post unrelated and "Jackass" style videos.

[Locutus]

Sounds good to me, just report them as you see them.

[browning]

Although, I am in favor of warning those who continue to post unrelated and "Jackass" style videos.

That is exactly what I'm trying to get across. I'm fine with videos that serve a purpose to either teach a lesson or give information on how to open up your mechbox or field strip your airsoft gun, but lately it seems like too many people are taking it to the extreme and digging up every single video they can find on Youtube (or Google) that shows someone with an airsoft gun that is doing something rather stupid, just so they can comment on them and say, "OMFG what a bunch of N00bs." To me, posting up a bunch of videos of dunces with airsoft guns does nothing to make this community better than it already is.

[VasilitheSniper]

Hey, I've posted videos here the AK/MP40 tips are not stupid. And AATV ones are not either are they?

[Hjholter3]

the AATV Videos ARE AWESOME! lol

[browning]

I don't know to which videos your are refering, but I most recently posted video of someone having an airsoft BB surgically removed from their head. It may serve as a lesson to some who think it's funny to shoot someone at close range with a high FPS. As to the post where people are shooting their LCD monitors with an airsoft gun, yes this is pointless and serves no purpose. I think this sort of attitude torward restricting ones freedom to post what they want is heading down the wrong path. This is a public forum and players in good standing have the right to post what they want within the set guidelines. Although, I am in favor of warning those who continue to post unrelated and "Jackass" style videos.

Hey, I've posted videos here the AK/MP40 tips are not stupid. And AATV ones are not either are they?

No I don't see any problems with those types of videos...it's just the videos with people doing immature things. Yes I know some people mean well with the videos showing kids doing immature things with airsoft guns by pointing out, "what not to do with an airsoft gun," but any old Joe can access this site and read the information posted here, and they may not interpret the information the same way as most of the members on this site do. Kids get on this website everyday...if they start imitating what they see as "cool" in a video of immature kids playing with airsoft guns on this website then we have catastrophic problems as a community if this kid gets hurt imitating a video found here...we are just asking to have our asses handed to us when the kid involved tells his mother, police, media, or whomever he is involved with where he got the idea to do what he did, and then this site is just asking to be featured on the headline of the Cincinnati Enquirer, Dayton Daily News, Columbus Dispatch, and Cleveland Plain Dealer. We as a community DO NOT need to go through all of this trouble...

[VasilitheSniper]

No I don't see any problems with those types of videos...it's just the videos with people doing immature things. Yes I know some people mean well with the videos showing kids doing immature things with airsoft guns by pointing out, "what not to do with an airsoft gun," but any old Joe can access this site and read the information posted here, and they may not interpret the information the same way as most of the members on this site do. Kids get on this website everyday...if they start imitating what they see as "cool" in a video of immature kids playing with airsoft guns on this website then we have catastrophic problems as a community if this kid gets hurt imitating a video found here...we are just asking to have our asses handed to us when the kid involved tells his mother, police, media, or whomever he is involved with where he got the idea to do what he did, and then this site is just asking to be featured on the headline of the Cincinnati Enquirer, Dayton Dialy News, Columbus Dispatch, and Cleveland Plain Dealer. We as a community DO NOT need to go through all of this trouble...

I agree we've had enough bad press lately. Lets make 2007 a turning point and get as much good press as possible.

[Audio Murphy]

Just create a forum called "internet videos" or "youtube videos" or something and people can post them in there. Then you can skip that section of the forums altogether and save your "precious time". And anyone who wants to post videos, and people who want to watch them, can do so without interfering with anyone else's AO experience. Problem solved.

[Texx]

How bout if the "stupid videos" which display stupid behavior just not be posted on the forums. Why waste any more space on crap. We already have an Off-Topics Forums. You know that someone bragging about doing something stupid like that would be fodder for banination.

If you want a place to view "youtube videos", save your "precious time" and point your browser to that website. Why dedicate additional forum resources to something that is already hosted elsewhere?

Just because anyone wants to post videos doesn't mean they should. If post content can be grounds for scrutiny, I don't see why video content should'nt be equally scrutinized.

[sidewinder]

I agree. I f you want to view that kind of thing, go to YouTube and type in "dummy with airsoft gun". On the other hand , I like to see videos posted to keep us informed of media involvement, even though negative, like the story FOX had not too long ago. It kinda keeps us informed of the coverage that is being "forced" on the public, not the person that searches the web looking for that fool shooting himself or his friends.

[Audio Murphy]

The last thing anyone needs is a banning of what can be posted on a forum thread made especially for that sort of content just because some people think it's a waste of time. You don't want to see them? Don't go to those threads. But don't say it's a waste of time or anything else, because someone else might be interested even if you're not. You want to go someplace where You Tube is banned? Try China. Here in the US lets try to stay away from that word.

[Texx]

Stupid Airsoft videos already have a place on the net. They should not be spread and promoted. They should be deleted and forgotten.

The problem is that some people act incredibly stupid. They video themselves doing it because they think its funny. Then spread it all around the net so that more idiots can try to one-up them.

Why should Airsoft Ohio be used to further stupidity?

There's nothing wrong with filtering questionable content. You do it everyday when you delete spam email or by flipping past commercials on TV. Does that make you a communist and fascist because you don't want to have crap ruin your entertainment?

..don't say it's a waste of time or anything else, because someone else might be interested even if you're not

Why can't I say it's a waste of time? I find them useless and in my opinion, they are a complete waste of time. I am not interested in seeing them on Airsoft Ohio. And if they aren't on Airsoft Ohio, you can just as easily watch them on You Tube.

I mean, if you're looking for information on how to make a chocolate cake, you shouldn't start crying censorship because you can't find anything on a forums dedicated to cleaning baboons. Where's the harm in keeping Airsoft Ohio consistent with responsible and mature airsofting and leaving the stupid human tricks on YouTube?

I wouldn't mind if YouTube were banned anywhere. I deal with enough stupidity answering calls in tech support to more than make up for any lost on one of the sites I spend my free time.

[Audio Murphy]

There's nothing wrong with filtering questionable content. You do it everyday when you delete spam email or by flipping past commercials on TV. Does that make you a communist and fascist because you don't want to have crap ruin your entertainment?

It depends on if the choice of filtering is yours alone or if someone is making the choice for you.


I wouldn't mind if YouTube were banned anywhere. I deal with enough stupidity answering calls in tech support to more than make up for any lost on one of the sites I spend my free time.

Others spend their free time here as well and hopefully it is not up to you or anyone else what they can or can't post or watch. It's called freedom. If they post stupid airsoft videos on a trade or sell forum, then yes, report them. If they post them on a Video section or even a Anything Else But Airsoft section then no one should be complaining. I myself haven;t watched any of the stupid videos that this thread is about, but I would like to have the choice to if I so choose. Someone apparently found them relevant or entertaining to begin with and it's none of your business why. Unless someone has a gun to your head making you go to threads you don't like then stop trying to force your will on the rest of the board.

[Locutus]

Others spend their free time here as well and hopefully it is not up to you or anyone else what they can or can't post or watch. It's called freedom.

This is a privately owned site, "freedom of speech" does not apply here. What is and what is not allowed to be posted here is completely up to the admins and moderators. I am suprised that his isn't obvious to you by now, as there are all kinds of things that are not allowed to be posted on AO.

From now on, videos portraying people using airsoft in an irresponsible manner will be immediately deleted and the poster will be warned. Please report and posts that contain such material using the report icon.

Thanks.

[BattlePriest]

Man... I don't understand why people just don't get it. I went through this whole freedom of speech argument with ASF members a couple of years ago...and I still have to keep referencing that topic to this day, when people just don't get it when I delete their content.

I think we started disallowing stupid airsoft tricks from google and youtube middle of last year...and we still get people (mostly teenagers) posting them in our "funny stuff" forum.

I just don't understand, why anyone would think they are funny.

The most annoying of course is the people who feel the need to post the videos or pictures over an over again under the title "These are the type of people that will get airsoft banned". The posters not realizing that by propagating the stupid videos, they are contributing to the problem, not helping it.

[longhorns770]

you guys need to quit being such babies. What do you can if they post stupid stuff? What do you "sift" through in the videos. I think its fine if you want to post those kinds of things. Is there something morally wrong with that? The whole idea of banning people from having fun is ridiculous. Airsoft isn't about being so strict. its about having fun. Yes i do think there are certain lines which you should not cross, and discipline should be enforced, but you people act like your angels. This is LIFE. stop being stupid for your own cause. The world doesn't revolve around you, you know? Next time you post a thread think to yourself what the point is.

I mean c'mon, my 6 yr old brother isn't as much of a baby as you are.

[browning]

you guys need to quit being such babies. What do you can if they post stupid stuff?

Not caring is the worst thing we can do. These videos portray a bad image of airsoft, and nobody that I know of on this site, with the exception of you and Audio Murphy have objected to limiting or outright banning these corrupted videos.

What do you "sift" through in the videos. I think its fine if you want to post those kinds of things. Is there something morally wrong with that?

Yes there is something morally wrong with posting these types of videos. They give people who are picking up an airsoft gun for the first time the wrong idea of how they should be representing themselves when they are using airsoft guns.

The whole idea of banning people from having fun is ridiculous. Airsoft isn't about being so strict. its about having fun. Yes i do think there are certain lines which you should not cross, and discipline should be enforced, but you people act like your angels.

How can you have fun if what you're doing isn't safe for you or the people around you? Is your picture of fun being in jail or juvenille detention? These lines you speak of are what is being crossed...

This is LIFE. stop being stupid for your own cause. The world doesn't revolve around you, you know? Next time you post a thread think to yourself what the point is.

I mean c'mon, my 6 yr old brother isn't as much of a baby as you are.

Our own cause? We are simply trying to make this a better online community where being safe is the key to having fun.

Nobody did force you to join this site, so if you don't care to help us make this a better community, then you are definately welcome to leave. We won't stop you.

[gertrude]

you guys need to quit being such babies. What do you can if they post stupid stuff? What do you "sift" through in the videos. I think its fine if you want to post those kinds of things. Is there something morally wrong with that? The whole idea of banning people from having fun is ridiculous. Airsoft isn't about being so strict. its about having fun. Yes i do think there are certain lines which you should not cross, and discipline should be enforced, but you people act like your angels. This is LIFE. stop being stupid for your own cause. The world doesn't revolve around you, you know? Next time you post a thread think to yourself what the point is.

I mean c'mon, my 6 yr old brother isn't as much of a baby as you are.

I find your remarks personally offensive and disrespectful of many members of the community. Obviously, you do not get the "the point." While airsoft is about having fun, Airsoft Ohio is about disseminating knowledge about airsoft and its positive merits. We are not in the business of "banning people from having fun." While those people are free to post their videos of having fun on Google Videos or YouTube, Airsoft Ohio does NOT have to show its support of these potentially harmful practices by linking to them in any way.

This thread was intended to create discussion about this issue. However, a decision has been reached by the administration.

End of discussion.

Thread closed.