Is V.F.C. a good weapon?

[BLACK SE7EN]

While shopping around i found a gun that on looks alone i like. The maker is v.f.c. but i have never heard of them before. So good and bad what do you know about this company.

[sanitygone]

i have only heard a little bit about them and it was all good. good shipping, good customers service, etc.

edit: i know they are not a retailer, but i was talking like from manu. to retailer. (retailer being customer)

[Bones]

If it's Vega Force Company (a.k.a. EB Tech of Taiwan) you're talking about, I purchased their AKS-74U (DX version) back in June and it's an absolutely outstanding weapon. I can't attest for the other models of guns they're coming out with now, but the AEG from them I own beats out the build quality of popular manufacturers like Classic Army and Tokyo Mauri hands down. As far as I can tell, their conversion kits and weapons are of high quality, about on par with what Guarder puts out.

Internals have yet to show any flaws in their operation. Never had a bb (of various brands) get jammed up anywhere in the barrel.

They went to great lengths to make their AKS-74U as solid and heavy as real steel. The company event went so far as to match the threading to the real steel 24mm. There's no play in anything. The metal and wood construction are of high quality and many of the parts are directly compatible with the real deal. I wrote up an article about that particular AEG in the reviews section if you're looking for a more in-depth, first hand account of one of their products.

[Darkstar]

Originally posted by sainitygone
i have only heard a little bit about them and it was all good. good shipping, good customers service, etc.

VFC is not a retailer but a manufacturer. They don't sell direct, so you must have them confused with something else.

Darkstar out.

[BLACK SE7EN]

Are they t.m. compatable, as far as the gear box and motor. Can they take a systema thight bore barrel?

[Grease Man]

I've used the VFC AK74SU. It was just in its stock form and it shot around 310FPS. It was very solid and sounded very nice. I am interested in their upgrade capabilities. Has anyone upgraded theirs?

[Bones]

Gearbox, motor, and the inner-barrel are compatible, at least with the AKS-74U. In fact one of the first things I did with this gun was put in an upgraded TM gearbox and motor. The motor failed and I went back to the stock VFC gearbox and motor, but it was compatible nonetheless. According to Airsoft Extreme's review of the AKS-74U, everything in the gearbox is essentially on par with Classic Army parts. However, I've never delved into the VFC gearbox to upgrade the stock parts.

Now I'm not sure if they continued this technique with their non-AK AEGs, but with this one the hopup/inner barrel are spring loaded into the gearbox. So essentially all you have to do to remove the gearbox is push the hop-up/inner barrel assembly forward against a spring, unscrew the motor from the pistol group, and lift it out.

[Darkstar]

Originally posted by sainitygone
edit: i know they are not a retailer, but i was talking like from manu. to retailer. (retailer being customer)

I think you're either confused that VFC is a retailer, which they're not, or you're not sure what the difference between a retailer and a customer is.

VFC is a manufacturer which sells to distributors and some Taiwanese retailers. The distributors sell off to other retailers, some overseas, etc. Customers then purchase guns from retailers (retailers are the shops and businesses that sell the guns) and the retailers are ultimately responsible for shipping the guns to their customers. If you were trying to say that the retailers are the "customer" of the manufacturer, how would you have any knowledge of what their shipping service or customer service is like?

As VFC is not a retailer, the likelyhood that they would have any interaction with the customer is low, though possible, as they don't have any direct user customer service. Retailers are usually responsible for customer service for end users of products and rarely the manufacturer. I doubt anyone from the US would be likely to receive any direct customer service from VFC, though it may be possible.

I'm not really sure what you were trying to say, but whatever it was didn't make much sense. Just be sure that you know exactly what you're talking about before you unintentionally give someone inaccurate information. :D I'd rather people not post anything than just posting for the sake of saying something and getting another number added to their post total. That's how people get confused. Not trying to put you down or anything, but just make sure to have personal knowledge about a subject before you post. It helps everyone. :)

Darkstar out.

[BLACK SE7EN]

Ok, this is helping alot. How about a drop in systema gearbox and motor? I saw this gun at airsplat, who else can get this gun in.

[Bones]

Black, what gun are you looking at specifically?

[BLACK SE7EN]

The HK-416.

[Darkstar]

the VFC guns are all based on exsisting technology. The VFC 416 uses a version 2 gearbox, so it should be fully upgradable with readily available upgrades. Loki has a VFC AK-47U, so you might want to contact him regarding his experiences with that gun. Even though it's a different gun, the quality should be similar.

Darkstar out.

[Bones]

Airsoft Extreme carries it for a very resonable price compared to what AirSplat has to offer, simply because you get both the 10 and 14.5 outter barrels for ten dollars more.

http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=364_518&products_id=2761

According to the specs, it's just a Version 2 gearbox (7mm), so a Systema drop in with a 7mm bearing should work just fine along with motor.

(edit: Darkstart beat me to it)

[Darkstar]

LoL, H&K is going to be PISSED when they find out US retailers are selling those AEGs.

Darkstar out.

[Thatfatmacdude]

If I may interject my opinion, get the 416 from a non-stateside retailer. First of all, price is going to be just a little less (yes I know before import fees, and the like) but you don't get the crappy trademarks that the export version has, and I believe that you get both outer barrels.

[Bones]

Actually, you end up paying anywhere from 20-50 dollars more for the AEGs (before shipping) with the H&K trademarks on them overseas. The DX packages (both barrel lengths) run up into 500 dollars and beyond with UN Company and WGC.

[Darkstar]

Originally posted by Thatfatmacdude
If I may interject my opinion, get the 416 from a non-stateside retailer. First of all, price is going to be just a little less (yes I know before import fees, and the like) but you don't get the crappy trademarks that the export version has, and I believe that you get both outer barrels.

VFC doesn't make an export version. They all have H&K trademarks on it. Technically, US companies have to destroy the trademarks to be legal.

Darkstar out.

[Thatfatmacdude]

No, VFC makes a export version that does not have the HK trademarks.
https://www.airsoftgi.com/images/vfc416uslogo.jpg