is this a good deal?

[death by bbs]

gun (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3615118319&category=31686)

is this good or not?

[0N3_SH0T]

i think that the gun is KWC (seeing that the pic in the link is the same one as the pic in the KWC website). if the gun is a KWC P99, dont get it. you are better off getting a HFC P99. it is better in accuracy, range, and durablity.

P.S. - dont get guns from ebay, instead you should get guns from airsoft dealers. you have a better chance of getting a good quality spring gun instead of a cheep one.

[snowman]

Well it SAYS it's an HFC up in the title, so I assume it is...

Not seen an HFC P99, but HFC guns are usually lacking in the looks department, but good and heavy (more like a low-end GBB).

Power isn't a big thing with HFCs and only the very latest have Hop-Up, which increases range, if such a thing is important to you...

I had a KWC P99 and it was very nice. A bit light, but beautifully detailed with lots of (licensed) Walther trademarks.

Cheers.

[death by bbs]

ok where should i buy from

[death by bbs]

is the hfc glock 17 any good

[SnakeEyes0001]

I heard the HFC G17 has upsidedown hopup so the bbs drop after ten feet. I own an HFC p99 and I like it a lot. I use it as a sidearm for my HFC mp5. The p99 has great accuracy w/ .20s but not as good range(so what, it's a backup). It's too late for the ebay deal, but there's several places on the internet to get the hfc p99. And there is NO good place on the internet to get the kwc p99. I have checked soo many retailers and could only find it (the one with hopup) at one place. At airsoftpaintballs.com or something, but the shipping is really bad there, you might get it a month after you order it.

[Magus 86]

Yeah, my HFC Glock 17 has the problem snakeyes described, the bb's curve downward sharply after 10 feet. I dunno if they're all like that or if it was just my stupid luck again like with my SD3 jamming. Either way... I took it apart to see if i could fix it, but the barrel can't be turned upside down cuz it doesnt fit in any other way than how it is already. So I dunno if u wanna try to buy one or not. You can, but don't be overly surprised if you find out that yours has the same problem. Oh yeah... somehow the lube had something to do with it curving too, cuz when i took it apart, a lot of lube came off from me touching it and the parts flying around a few times cuz i couldn't get them in right. And... Afterwards, it still has the problem, but it's not quite as severe, and it actually shoots decently with .20's. The range still kinda sux though... oh well