OP:Fortune Cookie August 26, 2006

[Decoy]

Date: August 26th
Location: Springfield, Ohio
Cost: $25 before August 1st, $35 after August 1st
Age Limit: 16+

The Story
In the very near future, North Korea has been developing and testing missile and nuclear technology. In June '06, rumors of a new TaeDong 2 missile being tested were dispelled by South Korean spies. Since that time, it has come to light that the South Korean spies were mis-lead. As the world slept comfortably under the notion that they were safe from North Korea, testing in secret continued. North Korea, in it's long history of flipping off the world, launched a new missile. The Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) now possesses a weapon that can strike the United States.

With the new missile landing in Nebraska, the citizens in the U.S. are suffering from mass panic. Not since the Cold War have they been directly threatened by a sovereign nation. Due to the mass hysteria from their constituents, Congress has pushed the White House to take IMMEDIATE action against North Korea. Diplomatic and 'covert' actions have been utilized since the launch of the missile. U.S. military divisions and hardware are preparing to move into a position to launch an invasion of North Korea. In the UN Security Council, the Chinese and Russians refused any attempts other than diplomatic sanctions against the DPRK.

Just yesterday, South Korean spies reported with credible evidence that DPRK has obtained nuclear capability and is in the process of building a new bomb. Their warhead design is one that can be carried by their new missile...

Ill prepared to handle this new nuclear threat, the U.S., Japanese and South Koreans launch an invasion. The outcome of this conflict will determine if the world will be held hostage.

The US Side:
The "Motivation"
We've just been hit. Thankfully not by a nuclear or explosive device. But the fact that the DPRK has the ability to hit me is not cool. We must take them out before they strike for real. Those pussies in the UN don't acknowledge the danger of a nuclear North Korea, with a reliable long-range delivery system. At least the Japanese and the South Koreans are willing to help.

The "Plan"
We're forced to leave most of our heavy equipment behind to preserve speed and surprise. We're having three Air Assualt missions to attack LZ's Michigan, Indiana and Ohio near the Chinese/DPRK border. The South Koreans, with naval assistance from the Japanese, are making a push across the DMZ. Casualties will be high, but we hope to spread the DPRK thin so we can find and destroy all missile and nuclear technology.

The "Mission"
To establish an LZ to bring in troops and equipment. Either push the DPRK in this region back further into their country, or to bypass them to effectively cut them off. LZ Ohio (our division's LZ) is the smallest of all the incursions. We have limited number of helocopters and air support at our disposal. With the short time frame, many of the available air assests have be allocated to other regions in this war. Either we succeed, or the world will change forever.

The DPRK's Side:
The "Motivation"
We've lived according to the rest of the world for too long. The ones with the Nukes make the rules...and it is our time to make the rules. Our missile test was a great success. The world is not shaking from our awesome might. Dear Leader's plans to frighten the powers of the world has worked. Once we have our nuke, no one will dare stop us from unifying Korea once again. Unfortunately our actions have worked a little too well. As we speak our brothers to the South with their allies are mobilizing against us. We must hold them back until our nuke comes on line.

The "Plan"
To stop foreign incursion onto our land. We launched a missile without a warhead, and they attack us!?! They must pay for this. Our forces are to keep factories, cities and research facilities safe. We will engage our foes in the field. We'll hit them hard so they cannot establish a strong beachhead or area of operation.

The "Mission"
In the proceeding hours, enemy aircraft have been rocking our country with their bombs. It is odd however that our sector hasn't really been hit. The invasion must be occuring somewhere else. Oh well, unless Dear Leader says otherwise, we are to hold this hill.


Type of game/rules:
A Milsim Air Assault
Semi-Only (except support weapons)
Green camos vs Tan camos
Specific bb loadouts
Plus much much more...

Other information
Registration will be through www.AirsoftEvents.com and will open within 1-2 weeks. Registration will close 1-2 weeks before event date. BBs WILL be provided, so don't bring your own.

ZSHOT.COM has donated SYSTEMA 0.2g bbs for this event. As apart of the sponsor agreement, we will require feedback as to the bb's performance.

[output01x]

Originally posted by Decoy
Semi-Only (except support weapons)

Question - Are you only planning on allowing semi-only weapons, or are you going to trust in your fellow airsofter to keep their AEGs on semi? Just wondering.

[Decoy]

Originally posted by output01x
Question - Are you only planning on allowing semi-only weapons, or are you going to trust in your fellow airsofter to keep their AEGs on semi? Just wondering.

Airsoft is a game of honor ;). This rule falls entirely on the shoulders of the player, not his/her equipment.

[tango1]

i'll be there along with some of my team.

[Thatfatmacdude]

Decoy: Sounds frackin awesome! I will register when it comes up on AirsoftEvents.com. Great use of current events in a match.

By the way, what is the reasoning for the semi-auto only? Also, could we have a pistol competition at the event?

[Iceman]

There will be no official pistol competition at the event. This is a milsim event. Gentlemen and ladies, prepare yourselves accordingly.

[Thatfatmacdude]

I just thought that it would be cool to have an IPSC course set up, or something like that to do durring some down time.

[gertrude]

What down time?

[sniper5990]

I will definately be there with about 3-4 others!

[Thatfatmacdude]

Never mind, stupid question.

[Snake Eyes]

Great storyline, and the name is great!:)

I wish I could make it! I'll be on vacation with my family.

[Dever]

My birthday weekend... won't miss it!

[NickTick]

Ill be there maybe with a few others. Standing by for event registration.
And Dever are you coming all the way up from FL for this event??




Peace

[Hillslam]

Looking forward to it.

[CheGregory]

Count the 82nd in.

[notabob]

well, maybe ill come... :rolleyes:

[Xenos 8]

freakin awesome man!!! i really really hope i can come :D . are there any gun restrictions, like types :confuesed: . i hope to get some came between now and then so that should be good :) . ill bring a few friends, at least 3-4, but maybe more ( had a small battle today and got 4+ more people into airsoft)

[Decoy]

The only gun restrictions applied (besides FPS regulations, as used by the Strikers) will be what type are clasified as support weapons.

The age limit is 16 (i.e. you must be 16 or older to attend).

[underthehill09]

Bummer.... Oh well rules are rules

[Dutton]

I've got a few question while I'm thinking about it, Decoy.

For a semi-auto sniper rifle, any chance you'd allow 500 FPS (I ask because Strikers only permit 450+5%). Also, are you going to have a rule inplace like Frank did, under 18, no 400+ guns?

[airsoftaddict]

Aww, crap. I was hoping to go... :(

[Decoy]

Originally posted by Gruntman
I've got a few question while I'm thinking about it, Decoy.

For a semi-auto sniper rifle, any chance you'd allow 500 FPS (I ask because Strikers only permit 450+5%). Also, are you going to have a rule inplace like Frank did, under 18, no 400+ guns?

Given that the Striker rules popped up partly due to the loss of one of my teeth we're sticking with their FPS rules, sorry.

[Shogun]

Sounds cool, I hope to be there.

[Xenos 8]

oh i guess me and my guys can't come with the 16 age cut off. ill be 15 july 23, and im not a small guy, 5'8, but if you dont wanna make an excpetion and stick to the rules i understand completely. in fact i dont think you will, just putin it out just in case, because this op sounds really awesome. in any case i hope it goes well for y'all, im sure you'll have fun.

[underthehill09]

Generally the rules arent bent for size. Its more of a maturity level type thing. Not saying that your immature, its just the standard is usually set 16 because generally speaking thats when people begin to really become mature. It also could be due to an insurance policy of the field.

I know your pain though. Dont it suck being under 16? All we can do is be mature about it, and maybe prove ourselves for a different event that is deciding between at 15 and 16 year old limit.

[Xenos 8]

Originally posted by underthehill09

I know your pain though. Dont it suck being under 16? All we can do is be mature about it, and maybe prove ourselves for a different event that is deciding between at 15 and 16 year old limit.
thanks for being sympathetic about. yeah it does. Just have to wait one more year, i guess. I think im mature, but then again i wouldnt like to think im immature, lol. well theres an event this sat, but i think itll take more than that to prove myself. well maybe we could do this again next year?

[Decoy]

We're not going to bend on the age limit, for numerous reasons. But for all of you who are 15 right now, keep an eye out. If this event is as successful as we hope, we'll be hosting more events next summer.

[Xenos 8]

i understand, its fine. cool :D thx, i cant wait till next summer.

[underthehill09]

Yeah im pretty pumped. In fact im just pumped to be 16! Im fine with just going to mainly fun events anyway. Im not all that serious yet.

[insane]

So....we would be using FREE Systema BB's? Because there's no way I'm buying bb's there....especially since I don't really play and I have gobs already. And what time would the event be from?

-Cody

[Decoy]

Free, basically yes. The field fee is what covers the bbs.

The time frame hasnt been layed out yet. But expect the game to be between 9am to 6pm.

[insane]

Ouch! 9am! :lol: That means I would have to leave my house ~7:00am! Oh well. I might go, but am still unsure as of now.

BTW: I have a stock AE MP5-A4, would I be serverally outgunned? I'm not new to airsoft, but I left for quite a long time, so I'm not sure what guns are out, etc. My MP5 shoots ~320fps and shoots ~100-150ft. Plus, the MP5 is made for CQB, not woods.

-Cody

[Dever]

Originally posted by NickTick
And Dever are you coming all the way up from FL for this event??


Florida is my established residency. I live in Washington, DC right now and am transfering to Ohio mid-August. Timing works out perfectly.

[notabob]

Originally posted by insane
Ouch! 9am! :lol: That means I would have to leave my house ~7:00am! Oh well. I might go, but am still unsure as of now.

BTW: I have a stock AE MP5-A4, would I be serverally outgunned? I'm not new to airsoft, but I left for quite a long time, so I'm not sure what guns are out, etc. My MP5 shoots ~320fps and shoots ~100-150ft. Plus, the MP5 is made for CQB, not woods.

-Cody

that would be more than sufficient.

[NickTick]

BTW: I have a stock AE MP5-A4, would I be serverally outgunned? I'm not new to airsoft, but I left for quite a long time, so I'm not sure what guns are out, etc. My MP5 shoots ~320fps and shoots ~100-150ft. Plus, the MP5 is made for CQB, not woods.


I played at springfield and other events for over a year with a stock gun so you have nothing to worry about. Just remember its not the size of the gun that matters its how well you use the gun. :)



peace

[Slaya360]

Originally posted by insane
BTW: I have a stock AE MP5-A4, would I be serverally outgunned? I'm not new to airsoft, but I left for quite a long time, so I'm not sure what guns are out, etc. My MP5 shoots ~320fps and shoots ~100-150ft. Plus, the MP5 is made for CQB, not woods.

-Cody

Its not the size(fps) that matters; its how you use it.

[insane]

Cool, thanks guys. Hopefully I'll be able to go, and maybe this will get me back into airsoft a little bit. The last game I went to was back in December (the Vandalia Event) and since then I haven't had time to play.

I'll ask some of my friends and see if they will come.
-Cody

[slicknickpro]

I'm on the fence with this one. I could make it but I am comming back from troy the night before. I think its not possible for me and 2 others on 3D

[Nayo]

any gear restrctions? ammo load, allowable guns, mag size etc.

[NickTick]

Its not the size(fps) that matters; its how you use it.

Slaya i know you idolize me and all:confused: but do you really have to resort to coping me. :D


Peace



P.s. i hope you all know im kidding

[Decoy]

Originally posted by Nayo
any gear restrctions? ammo load, allowable guns, mag size etc.

There may be some BDU restrictions (the common ones will be allowed). Gun restrictions will be based on FPS and on what "clasification" they are under (i.e. no one under 18 will be allowed over 400FPS, and restrictions on what counts as a support weapon). Mag restrictions will be based on load out, and good taste (i.e. no drum or c-mags for most weapons). All of this will be on the Airsoft Events page once we have that up and running, which should be by the end of the week.

The 9am thing is the earliest we're talking about, and would count as the START time for briefings.

All of this info will be on airsoftevents.

[Krayzie]

Decoy,

You know we will be there!

With free bb's that means we can pray and spray and never run out of bb's yeah. LOL

[Cullen Katarn]

If we will be Sniping can we bring our own bbs like .33bbs? Because I really don't want to be shooting .2bbs although it is pretty nice to have "free" bbs...I will bring the Thompson for that...

[Decoy]

Originally posted by Cullen Katarn
If we will be Sniping can we bring our own bbs like .33bbs? Because I really don't want to be shooting .2bbs although it is pretty nice to have "free" bbs...I will bring the Thompson for that...

Yes "Snipers" can bring their own. But they'd have to be left with one of the organizers, don't worry we wont steal them.

Also, we are using a majority of the established rules usd by the Strikers. That means no one under 18 will be permitted to use a gun that is over 400FPS.

[Shogun]

I'm registered. Hopefully it'll be worth it. :p

[Decoy]

Event registration is open on Airsoft Events. We don't have the payment system set up yet, but you can at least sign-up. Please note that the DPRK is green (woodland, woodland marpat, DPM, tac tiger, etc) and US is in tan (and ACU).

[Shogun]

Originally posted by Decoy
Please note that the DPRK is green (woodland, woodland marpat, DPM, tac tiger, etc) and US is in tan (and ACU).

That's what I thought I read under the BDU section of the rules, and then after I registered I noticed a few people signed up for the US side with woodland BDUs.... I got confused.

[Dever]

Originally posted by Decoy
Event registration is open on Airsoft Events. We don't have the payment system set up yet, but you can at least sign-up. Please note that the DPRK is green (woodland, woodland marpat, DPM, tac tiger, etc) and US is in tan (and ACU).

Understood for U.S. in tan colors. I signed up in Woodland MARPAT... will augment with Desert MARPAT or whatever else the U.S. as a whole will be wearing.

[Red]

Sounds like a great event, Decoy. Great scenario. I'd surely be there if it were not for the fact that I'm under the age limit. I do think that it is a good idea to keep the rules from bending for anybody, but I also think that sometimes certain people are mature enough to play, even if they are under 16. I entirely respect the age restrictions because of liability issues as well.

Hope you guys have fun. Sounds like a great event. I can guarantee you if I hear some good stories about it I will be there next year (if you hold the event again).

Though I still wish you would bend the rules :rolleyes: , good luck on this event.

-Red

[Hillslam]

I'm there.

Will register as soon as I figure out what the guys are wearing.

[NickTick]

I'd surely be there if it were not for the fact that I'm under the age limit. I do think that it is a good idea to keep the rules from bending for anybody, but I also think that sometimes certain people are mature enough to play, even if they are under 16.

Okay this thread can go south real quick with post like this. Please keep the thread about the event and the event only. As for the matter of you being under 16. This is all you have to do. Start going to events for all ages and prove your maturity level. When you see a springfield 101 or any other number you can go to that event and prove to us that you can play at a mature level. B**tching about in a post doesnt prove anything.
Just some friendly advise.



Peace

[Red]

Well, things can go down south when people take things the wrong way, so I'll take it as friendly advice. I wasn't B*tching, I was simply stating I couldn't make it because I wasn't sixteen, and that I wish that he would bend the rules (though I know he won't). I'm just playing around. I didn't meant to sound like I was whining about it either.

Now, since I went off topic, I apologize.

Again, Decoy, hope all goes well with your event.

[Grimmy]

Myself and 3 other squad members are already registered. Do you guys have any more info on the event? I will have another 2 or 3 players if everything goes well. The event sounds fun :)

[Iceman]

What else would you like to know?

[Grimmy]

Just info on how many are in so far do we get a map or anything? When do we get the players kit? Sorry I haven't been to an event yet it just seems like there isn't a lot of info maybe its just me

[Decoy]

A lot of the information you're looking for will come from 2 different places, the player's kit and AirsoftEvents.com. Airsoftevents has a majority of the public information concerning bdus, magazine requirements, general rules, etc. It also has the roster of those who have registered. We are still working to fully update airsoftevents.

The player's kit will be made available after August 1st. Each side will have a different kit that includes the general rules and their side's specific rules.

[HardLock]

Here are links to generic maps of the field. It will be up to Decoy which portion of the field he wants to use.

Full Field View:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/StrikersHardlock/Airsoft/LowResFullField.jpg

East Field View:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/StrikersHardlock/Airsoft/BlindFury2.jpg

[Grimmy]

Have you setup a way for payment yet or should I just periodically check airsoft events for that?

[Decoy]

Main method of payment will be via paypal. The payment info should be updated on airsoftevents any day now. Once it is up, I'll post here so everyone will know ;) .

[monkey_slap]

dang, im 18 20 days to the date after the event. must leave rifle at home

:(

but ill bring the other goodies. hopefully i can gather some more teammates to head out too.

[NickTick]

Decoy

Do we have to prepay or can we pay at the event?


Peace

[Decoy]

It will be a pre-pay. Unfortunately Blade is out of town at the moment, and hasn't had much of a chance to update airsoftevents with the payment info.

[Grimmy]

Will you be extending the August 1st date then?

[Decoy]

Not likely. Depends on when the site is updated.

[NickTick]

It will be a pre-pay.

That is what i thought. I will not be able to attend then. I hope you all have a good fun and safe event.


Peace

[Grimmy]

Well August 1st is less than 2 weeks away and no payment info some people need to save the money especially the youngsters any idea when its going to be ready

[Iceman]

Well, Blade should be back from his vacation this weekend, so I am assuming early next week it should be up.

[Grimmy]

Early next week is already the 25th-27th that gives people 4 days. I mean I don't have a problem the minute its up I'm game but the more people the better and if they don't want to pay $35 instead of $25 after august 1st then they won't be as many players

[Decoy]

I caught Blade online tonight, payment info is now up.

[Tanker671]

please let us pay there because well im 16 and I dont have a credit card and plus I dont like to make payments online so please let us pay there
Please! :D also is this event only semi? because I dont like using only semi

[Hillslam]

I'm registered.

Looks like we've got some BDU confusion on the roster.

[Iceman]

Correct, event is semi only. Reson being is that there will be limited ammo situations. Plus, with this being a milsim game, current military doctrine is essentially semi only except in emergency situations.

In terms of BDU's, that will be clear up shortly. Seems some people can't read too well......

[Kaiser78]

I may have missed it but is there camping available? I am thinking of coming down but it would be a 5.5 hour ride for me especially after a full day of work coming from Northern Chicago.

Kaiser

[Tanker671]

Can people bring our own ammo because my gun takes only certain bullets and if we do can you use full auto?

[Decoy]

Originally posted by Kaiser78
I may have missed it but is there camping available? I am thinking of coming down but it would be a 5.5 hour ride for me especially after a full day of work coming from Northern Chicago.

Kaiser

We're not including camping in the field fee, but there have been no problems with camping at Springfield before. It is usually $5 per person/night.


Tanker,
It depends on what gun you're talking about, and NO full auto unless it is a support weapon.

[onsite]

Decoy, full auto is out for the average player but any decision on burst or is that considered in the same boat as auto?

[Decoy]

A burst is more than semi. As specified, this is semi ONLY with exception for support weapons.

[Tanker671]

well I have a war hawk and it says to only use special BBs with the gun usual BBs will jam it

[Decoy]

Tanker,
Bring your bbs to the event. We will test your gun with the provided bbs. If there is a blatant problem then we'll let you use yours.

[Tanker671]

Ok sweet to bad full auto is disabled because I love laying a couple hundred rounds into the brush all well :D

[Decoy]

Ok troops...the cost for the event is going up on Tuesday from $25 to $35. So register and pay ASAP to save money!

[HardLock]

REGISTERED and PAID!

What is everyone else waiting for? Why should anyone try to host a game if no one shows up? :(

I know what its like to organize a big game and I just want to say THANKS to Decoy in advance!

PS: The last time Decoy and 6mm Militia hosted a game (OP: Slash and Burn) it was a GREAT event. I'm sure this event will be the same. :)

[TheBanker]

I'm waiting until after NW3 to make a decision about this one. I really like the sound of it, but I'm not sure I want to pay for two back to back like that.

[Kilroy]

Where in Springfield Ohio is this event going to take place? (For map quest directions and all.)

I Just checked the Air soft events web page and it appears to be down for maintenance, or some sort of Update I guess.(or maybe the computers here at work just suck because there 30 years old)

And someone else asked a question, that I haven’t seen, (or apparently have missed) an answer to.

Will we be able to pay our registration fee at the event?

[strikers_blade]

Joshua,

if you can read the link here, you should be fine to it all; http://airsoftevents.com/events/event_story.php?event_num=62

The field is the Strikers field, which 5min from Enon;
4624 Dayton Springfield RD
Springfield OH 45502

From Chesapeake, I would probably go through Columbus directions; http://maps.yahoo.com/dd_result?newaddr=&taddr=4624+Dayton+Springfield+rd.&csz=columbus%2C+oh&country=us&tcsz=Springfield%2C+oh%2C+45502&tcountry=us&oerr=-3001&terr=-3001

As far as payment, you sadly have to give me your money while I have nothing to do with the organization muhahhahhahh :D
Payment has to be sent through paypal.
http://airsoftevents.com/events/event_payment.php?event_num=62

Hoping it answered all your questions.

[Tanker671]

please tell me you can pay at the event!

[Decoy]

No, this is a pre-pay event as listed in the information since the original posting of the event on airsoftevents.

[solution_zero]

I'll be there for sure.:cool:

[Kilroy]

Well, I would love to attend, but I don't trust Pay pall, and therefore I don't have a pay pall acct. So unless you take a Mailed in money order, I wont be able to make it either. :( Looks like I will be stuck attending a local event in our local Swamp.

Enjoy the war, because the peace is going to be hell!

(enjoy your event):D

[strikers_blade]

Predator,

Just send me your Money order and I will vouch for you ;)

[Kilroy]

you rock frank , thanks. Ile E-Mail ya soon.:D

[Tanker671]

ha ha you said frank instead of blade ha thats funny well I guess I can pay online

[Decoy]

The cost for the event is now $35. Expect some minor changes, moslty involving bdus to be forth coming.

[Kilroy]

There were 2 things I found really interesting when I first noticed this event.

1. A GREEN vs. TAN Camo requirement. This is a great idea; it makes Identifying Friend from foe a lot easier. Less “fratricide” that way. When you look at the other guy, you know what team he is on.

2. Semi auto for riflemen. Although the Logic behind this is Either somewhat flawed, Or deliberately vague, to avoid confusion,(Only the US and some of her allies do this, While most Kalishnikov using countries are all about using full auto fire) this Restriction WILL make the games a lot more Interesting. SAWs will become scary as heck. Just like a Machine gun should be.

Now, after checking the roster on Air soft events, I see that apparently #1 seems to be getting chucked out the window. Or am I Mistaken? Here is a Suggestion, (just a suggestion mind you) if this is an issue of people not having the right camouflage,
Then why not consider making the DPRK team wear US Woodland, and the NATO force wear anything else BUT woodland? It just seems to me that half the people who have signed up, are wearing woodland anyways.

Just a few thoughts.

[Iceman]

Reason being is that DPM looks a heck of alot like Woodland. Also, I think you are refering to TF 216 using vietman camo. I know them, and they are comming out in desert tiger, just I don't think we have that option on the website......

[Kilroy]

Not trying to sound like a prick here, But Although the colors may look vaguely similar, British DPM and US WOODLAND look nothing at all like each other than the fact they both have green brown and black in them. They are different Shades of color, and arranged in a different pattern.. And at the average 200 foot or less engagement Distance for Air soft, you would have to be color blind or just not paying attention to get them confused. They are distinctly different from each other.


When you see them side-by-side, you can easily tell the difference. Even at a distance.

Now if the person in question is someone who is “super new” to all this. I can sort of see your point as to where a few new people might get confused.

[Decoy]

Originally posted by predator06
Not trying to sound like a prick here, But Although the colors may look vaguely similar, British DPM and US WOODLAND look nothing at all like each other than the fact they both have green brown and black in them. They are different Shades of color, and arranged in a different pattern.. And at the average 200 foot or less engagement Distance for Air soft, you would have to be color blind or just not paying attention to get them confused. They are distinctly different from each other.


When you see them side-by-side, you can easily tell the difference. Even at a distance.

Now if the person in question is someone who is “super new” to all this. I can sort of see your point as to where a few new people might get confused.

First of all, don't worry yourself over all of this...we've got it under control. Secondly, when it is hot out, like it will most likely be, there are several things to consider about camos and their differences. Have you seen DPM or Flek when someone is sweating heavily? With moisture, a lot of the similiar colored (aka green based) look a lot alike. Additionally with the heat, people's goggles fog...further making IFF difficult (trust me, we've been there on both sides of that coin). Also the high probability that with increase heat, the more likely are taking their BDU tops off during the game. So now you must ID people by their pants, which is MUCH harder. All of these things result in more friendly-fire, which is something we're trying to cut out of the game...since a LOT of players do take much time to look. Just ask Iceman how many times I've been friendly fired in the last 2-3 games (he didn't shoot me, but did shoot other 6mm guys:p) ...and we had "distinct" camo differences :D .

[AlphaSix]

Originally posted by Iceman
Also, I think you are refering to Tac 216 using vietman camo. I know them,

WHO?
TAC and TF216 are two completely different teams :)

Actually, we are coming out in Vietnam Tiger Stripes. We have both the VN and the Deserts, and will be running with the Vietnam Tigers for this event.

In the end it doesnt matter re: uniforms.. positively ID your targets before blazing away and everything will be fine :)

[Decoy]

This isnt the right place for this, but oh well...
Tanker,
I am not sure if you noticed your post rating recently...you're not far from being banned. Please, if you're going to post something then make sure it adds to the conversation rather than the "yeah's", "lol's" and such.


For those attending the event,
We're still getting people registering, which is good, so the BDUs will most likely be changed. If you're currently not following the rules as to which BDU is on what side, don't be surprised if you are moved to the other team. That being said, I am almost positive that we'll be moving a few camos around so it isn't green vs. tan. Also, there is no guarentee that the sides will be equal numbers ;).

[CAR15A2]

Originally posted by AlphaSix
WHO?
TAC and TF216 are two completely different teams :)



Thanks for clearing that up.

[Kilroy]

Well, Truthfully, the last time I saw DPM worn, it was being worn by the B.O.A.R. In Germany, well over a decade ago. And I wasn't wearing fogged up goggles at the time.

And I guess that just because I am sure that I myself would never have a problem telling the difference, that doesn’t Necessarily mean that others wouldn’t have problems.

So I will just shoot anyone who gets to close. Especially the guys I am bringing with me. (Like Bossman, repeatedly and often.):D :D :D

[CAR15A2]

If you take a DPM shirt and a US Woodland shirt and put them 20-30 yards from you in the woods, partially sticking out from some bushes, I seriously doubt that anyone could tell them apart, fogging goggles or not.

[Kilroy]

Behind bushes at 30-50 yards now? Well than, I Suppose the more conditions you add to the situation, the harder it becomes to identify the target. And if your target is obscured that badly, maybe you shouldn't take the shot till you have a positive ID then eh?

There are allot of Hostile and friendly Nations and armys in this world that wear camouflage pattern uniforms, that could be mistaken for Friendly or enemy patterns, "at 20-30 yards from you in the woods, partially sticking out from some bushes"

So Some times you have to employ a little "PATD" and not just go around firing up everything that moves. (wich still happens.)


But hey, Its not my event. So its not my decision. And in the end, I don't really, honestly even care HOW its done, as long as I have a good time at the event. And this looks like it will be allot of fun.

[CAR15A2]

It may be easy to see a pattern on the parade ground, but then that is not the purpose of camoflage is it. I said nothing about whether you should take a shot or not, that came from you. and 20-30 yards is not the same as 30-50.

If you want to disagree with me that is fine. But don't make up something I did not say to disagree with. That is called fallacious reasoning and faulty logic.

I apologise for hijacking the thread, and fade back into the background.

[colossus]

how much ammo per person?????

[Decoy]

http://airsoftevents.com/events/rules.php?event_num=62&to_print=mag_info

[colossus]

no, i mean how many bb's are you gonna give us to use???

[Decoy]

10,000 for both sides :D.
The amount will vary depending on things accomplished on the field. Assuming our "package" arrives soon, we'll have more than enough.

[colossus]

ok were using these bb's so we can tell the supplyer weither there good or not?????:confused:

[Decoy]

1 of the 2 brands, that is correct.

[colossus]

well this amy be a stupid idea but cant we use the bb's provided and once we used them all we can tell an event organizer what we think about them and then use our own bb's, but its just an idea

[Gryphon]

colossus, I don't think you fully understand the idea behind not carring your own ammo in this game. It has nothing to do with reviewing an item. It's part of the story and Mil Sim idea that 6MM came up with.

[Iceman]

Actually Gryphon is mostly right. The reason behind the bb's is two fold. First is that this way you will be forced to secure a constantly random variable which is present in every military operation: a constant supply of ammo. This will mean that every soldier will be responcible for not only securing the ammo required for a side, but also monitering their own consumption. We feel that this will lead to some very interesting firefights as both sides being to run low on ammo and every shot must count.

The second part of the idea is a true field test for these bb's. Systema, the company we all love and trust has graciously donated a quantity of bb's for us to field test. That being said, they want an honest no bs opinion of them. They want an extended testing period based on real game conditions. Truely, how can one shoot one mag of a bb and then base their opinions on that? With this review in their arsenal, they can point to this and say that X amount of people at OP: Fortune Cookie found this bb favoriable to the current brand that they are using and would most likely buy this product in the future. For them, this is all about advertising, and for you, it's all about not spending a dime on some high quality ammo for a game. All in all, a win win for all involved.

[colossus]

ok now i get it, and yea that does sound fun

[Motis]

I just was wondering if some of my buddies were able to come to the event late, maybe even at 1 o clock, would they still be able to join in?

[Decoy]

Originally posted by Motis
I just was wondering if some of my buddies were able to come to the event late, maybe even at 1 o clock, would they still be able to join in?

Yes they could. They'd need to sign up, and pay, before the deadline just like everyone else. While either side would work, it would probably be best if they were able to sign up for the US side.




EVERY US REGISTERED PLAYER IN WOODLAND OR WOODLAND MARPAT: Please find a different camo selection, or you will be switched over to the DPRK side.

EVERY TIGERSTRIPE PLAYER: Due to the large number of players in woodland and marpat, you'll most likely end up on the US side. If you dont want to be on the US side, please select another camo (i.e. green based other than ACU) by contacting us with your selection.

[Oscar]

Attention all DPRK players

I will be your commanding officer.

Forums have been created on the ARES website so that we can begin planning for OP: Fortune Cookie. Please note that the private DPRK forum will not be opened until the teams are finalized by the organizers. There are still some discrepancies with BDU designations that need to be ironed out.

I need all DPRK players that have internet access to register and check in so that when the time comes we can dive right in and start planning.

The DPRK forums can be found here: http://forums.aresairsoft.com/

I look forward to working with each of you.

[Decoy]

Due to this being a last minute post, and with major events draining all energy and thoughts out of a lot of players, we will postpone the registration/PAYMENT dealine to the end of August 16th. In other words, your money needs to be in before Thursday.

[Tanker671]

Is this event a one day thing?

[Oscar]

Yes. 9am to 6pm. Some of us (myself included) are camping Friday night.

ATTENTION DPRK PLAYERS: The private forums are now open. Any paid and registered players on the DPRK side should register on the forums at http://forums.aresairsoft.com/ so that we can start planning for the op. NOTE: Access to the DPRK private forum will be granted manually.

[Dante]

depending on the temp. and how my rifle is shooting i may be wearing my ghillie suit. would that be ok since im wearing 6 color desert or shall i just keep my ghillie suit at home?

[Tanker671]

Actually I wore a full body suite to BF3 and scince you are in the trees most of the time you wont get hot and it was real hot and sticky on that day.

[Kingmob3]

Am I correct that regestration is completely closed?
thanks
KM3

[Decoy]

For the most part yes. We had too many people register without paying, so we wanted to limit how many would show without following our payment rules. If you are interested in attending, e-mail me decoy@callyourhits.net with your name (real name and handle) e-mail address that is valid and what camo you want to wear. You'll also need to pay ASAP.

[Motis]

sorry decoy, I registered, but at the last minute it turned out I won't be able to show up, I didn't pay so just don't expect me to...

[Decoy]

I apologize for the delay. The player's kits have been sent out. DPRK players, your CO has them. Most important is the waiver. If you're under 18, you need to have yours notarized. If you've been to a Striker event this year, you do not need to bring a new waiver.

[Oscar]

I've distributed the DPRK kits to all DPRK players.

[Kingmob3]

Player packs for all PARA players who dident get them initaly have been arainged.
KM3

[Tanker671]

so do they come in the mail? or email?

[Oscar]

I sent the kits to all e-mail addresses. I had two error out. Aces, I need you and your teammate to hop on the DPRK forums and check in. You can find the Player's Kit there as soon as I set you up with permissions. Please read through the DPRK forums posts once you get into them and familiarize yourself with all the info.

The site addy: http://forums.aresairsoft.com/

Also, anyone else that is DPRK but hasn't checked in to the forums please do so. I would like full participation please.

Thanks.

DPRK C.O.

[Tanker671]

ok I created a name but how do I get permission? Ace of Spades

[Oscar]

You're set now. I have to do it manually.

[Tanker671]

ok thanks but my freind registered his email wrong can you change it? it was dragonballz3220@yahoo.com needs to be changed to dragonballz321010@yahoo.com thanks.

[Oscar]

Done. Please post any further correspondence on the DPRK forum. :)

[sniper5990]

Could you also grant me access. The name on your forums is assault5990. If there is any problems just e-mail me at assault5990@yahoo.com.

Thanks,
Sniper5990

[monkey_slap]

just bought a SAW off team member for this event...

:D kidding (kinda)

cant wait to play w/ it though

edit: btw, the player kits that were sent out, i cant seem to open them. the file is odd, any way i could get it in another format?

[Oscar]

Keep in mind that monkey_slap is on the U.S. side. Do not send him a DPRK player's kit.

[Tanker671]

when do I receive my player kit? I checked into the forums

Update
Thanks Ive received it

[Oscar]

On its way.

[OSUDamian]

I have a last minute question about goggles...

I saw the pictures you had up and you can't possibly have every picture in the world so i can't go by that.

My goggles are ansi rated, feel free to shoot it anytime (it has happened)

They do not have a piece of rubber that snaps them directly to my face, however, due to face/goggle shape, you cannot get a 6mm BB in the goggles unless you stretch my face with your hand (or purposly shove it in there).
These babies cost me about $50 and I bought them directly for airsoft, they have interchangable lenses which helps me a lot with my cataracts so I can see in changing light conditions.

My question is..do I have to go out and spend $65++ on some wileyXs?

Because I really do not have that money, and let's be reasonable, If a 6mm gap is not found, there is no reason to make me go spend extra to have NO gap. I feel quite safe with these on, and i'm 22 and I'll already be signing a waiver.

[NickTick]

OSUDamian. In my personal view. If they are not full seal goggels then your not playing safely. Many goggles have interchangeable lenses you should look into them. And Airsoft Ohio rules stat that you have to have Full seal goggles. But its not my event or my eyes. So have fun.


Peace

[strikers_blade]

Osu,

Just come with your goggles and if we can find a way to get the 6mm bb into them, you will not be allowed to play. Want my advice? better think a plan B because I know we will find a way through.

Being said, www.combatdepot.com will be on site with a ton of goodies but just to make sure I will bring what you need, please drop me an email at sales@combatdepot.com

p.s. OSU, I do have Guarder X-800 goggles for 25$ ;)

[Kilroy]

Originally posted by CAR15A2
It may be easy to see a pattern on the parade ground, but then that is not the purpose of camoflage is it. I said nothing about whether you should take a shot or not, that came from you. and 20-30 yards is not the same as 30-50.

and just how much time Have you spent looking at these patterns on a parade ground? because I spent allot of time looking at them in a real world Field environment. which apparently you haven't.

[i]If you want to disagree with me that is fine. But don't make up something I did not say to disagree with. That is called fallacious reasoning and faulty logic.[/B]

No,, its what most people would recognize as a Typo on my part genius, seeing as both the correct and incorrect value are posted in the same post. but you decided to slither in and take the cheap shot, because you had nothing else of more value to say.



and to everyone else, I Cant make the game anyways, both do to a training accident (injury)with a real steel M249, and the fact that my RPK kit is now almost 5 weeks late, and I therefore wont have a weapon for the game anyways. so the rest of you have a nice game.

[Kurt Klaus]

That argument had ended. If not going to the event then why create such a nasty post attacking someone (who btw isnt going) or trying to get the last word in? All you might be getting in return is more negative feedback, hazing, flaming, etc, either be it because of a misunderstanding or an intended insult. Settle the dispute in another manner (and hopefully between you two in a polite way).

As I see it if you are using camo correctly you should not be able to be spotted/identified easily anyway be it tan based, green based or anything of that matter. Both of you have valid points both with reasonable facts/evidence/experiece/etc to back up your case and started out like a understandable argument/debate. After a few things/words were exchanged and not liked with one person or teh other it went down hill... like that post for example.

You dont have to be military or in a "real" environment to see the difference and/or worn in the field, everyone has eyes of thier own to make personal experiences be it in a "real" environment or simulated.

[OSUDamian]

thanks for the goggle advice. I am looking into those guarders x800. If you could bring some for sale that would be great. Along with any color spare lenses that you might have.

My eyes are very important to me...especially with all my eye problems, i know a lot abou eyes.

I just don't want to hear. "sealed goggles because they are sealed" you know what I mean, that's an opinion more than a safety precausion.

I feel perfectly safe with my glasses, and I would like to someday get some wileys...but like most things in airsoft, unless you're rich, they're long term plans

[Oscar]

Yeah Blak, better to be safe than sorry. I know it sucks, but having fully sealed goggles will put you in the green and not under scrutiny. I know I want you as an active part of your squad, so anything you can do to comply would be great. I'd hate to see you show up and be denied entry for lack of proper goggles.

[monkey_slap]

i know i may have some, and other members should, extra paintball goggles or masks. theyre cheap and perfectly safe, also not too bad as long as you keep moving (fog). if you dont want to spend the money PM me and i can see if i can hook you up.

[AlphaSix]

Originally posted by OSUDamian

I feel perfectly safe with my glasses, and I would like to someday get some wileys...but like most things in airsoft, unless you're rich, they're long term plans

Not to hijack this thread, but I think Wileys are overrated, especially if you have issues with normal goggles fogging up on you.

I do think I know what type of glasses you're talking about though, we have a guy on our team that has been wearing them for years, and they have typical eyeglass/sunglasses "stems" or whatever they are called to keep them on your head, but fit snugly up against your face. I'm betting you'll be able to use them, especially if you have something like an elastic band like many ball players use, just to make sure there's no way they can slip out of position..

[obligatory on-topic post]
How many people are arriving for this OP on Friday?

[Iceman]

Most of 6mm will be there on Friday.

[Hillslam]

saturday weather looks like it might be a hot one.

lots of water

[Tanker671]

yeah the waters a good idea you dont want to have to stop because of a dehydration headache or from lack of food. Cant wait till Saturday bringing Three members of The Aces

[Kingmob3]

PARA is bringing 8 people( I think), its also supposed to rain in the afternoon.
KM3

[strikers_blade]

For those who would like MREs or Smokes, please drop me an email at sales@combatdepot.com

[Tanker671]

Sorry aout this but one of the members of The Aces has droped out of the tournament money issues please take him off the roster thanks sorry again. :(

[monkey_slap]

cant wait to go, SAW is all prettied up. 97th leading the way baby.

[Tanker671]

Hey Blade do you have any googles that you will sell at the event? And anyone have a extra red rag?

[strikers_blade]

Tanker,

I will have everything you might need, From goggles to underwear. :p

[Tanker671]

ok how much do goggles run?

[Grease Man]

Originally posted by strikers_blade
Tanker,

I will have everything you might need, From goggles to underwear. :p

Calvin Klein Boxer Briefs?