Springfield, OH Event, July 8th, 2006

[strikers_blade]

Early to confirm yet but anybody would be interested to play at Springfield in 2 weeks? The standard $15/player and casual games in the buildings, hills, etc....

Let me know....

[NickTick]

ill be there.

[CptGooch]

I will not me there, but the rest of Section 8 might.





Happy Birthday to me!

[vbtb110]

Sounds fun, me and some Spartans will probably be attending.

[sniper5990]

I will try and get out there, but not sure if I can.

[Big Clips]

Casual games, like several scenarios, or a mess of 15 min games?

[Phil]

should be there

[sanitygone]

i will probably make it there, dont know

what is the address

[Mr. Potato-Head]

I should be there and might be able to bring a couple other people along with me.

[Snake Eyes]

Should be there!

[x-statix]

Always down for a game at springfield. I'll see if P.O.B. can make it. Lookin forward to it!

[stagg]

sure, why not

[Jonny_GunZ]

I'll be sure to attempt to attend this event, a friend who's in the chairforce (stationed in South Dakota) will be here then and he'll be driving to ohio so he'll bring his g36c with him. I'll also see if any other guys in Punishers will want to attend.

[BlackHawk97]

Well dante and I's birthdays are right around there, so if we come, could you bring us a cake? haha, j/p, I think both of us, and maybe a few other 97th may be coming out.

[Jonny_GunZ]

I'm sure we could find a fat guy to take his shirt off and sing "my milkshake" while juggling his man boobs, that would be a suitable substitute for a cake right? ;) lol

[BlackHawk97]

I suppose that will do, although I would rather see blade and/or krayzie play a game in a pink tutu, the sight of them getting lit up in those would be absolutely priceless, and I would have to put a pic of it as my avatar, and would not let them live it down.

So you guys are going to do that right blade? :p

[underthehill09]

If an address is posted i might go, Unless you only want people who have been there before.

[Xenos 8]

wana go but ive never been to a springfield event, so i would need more details:confused: . if i go im sure my friends would. and that is a saterday, cool. :D

[Xenos 8]

thanks ill try and go :D .

[genocide43110]

Originally posted by sainitygone
may or may not happen

this is were the july 8th event will take place

ADDRESS

Directions to Red Dragon Paintball
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2726 Lucas Road, Hammersville, Ohio 45130

We are 1 hour due east of Cincinnati and 2 hours straight south of Columbus.
from I-275 and Beechmont Ave
1. Head East on Beechmont (SR 125).
2. Drive about 30 minutes thru Amelia, Bethel to Hamersville.
3. Go to 3rd Street on the left to Lucas Rd. 4. On Lucas, go 1.5 miles to driveway (2726 Lucas) on right in the woods. You will see the Red Dragon Paintball Park sign at the end of the driveway.

from Columbus
1. Take I-71 South to Wilmington Exit
2. Head South on US 68 for about 45 minutes to Georgetown
3. Head West on SR 125 to Hamersville
4. Take first street on right, Lucas Rd. 5. On Lucas, go 1.5 miles to driveway (2726 Lucas) on right in the woods. You will see the Red Dragon Paintball Park sign at the end of the driveway.

What are you talking about? It's in Springfield, not Cincinnati. You might want to delete your post. Here is the address:

The Field is located:
4624 Dayton Springfield RD
Springfield OH 45502

And here is a link: http://airsoftevents.com/events/field.php?event_num=57

[Xenos 8]

ok thats fine too, about the same drive for me.

[genocide43110]

Im sure Blade wouldn't hold a game in Cincinnati. His field is in Springfield and that's always where he holds his events. Airsoft Arms holds events at Red Dragon.

[strikers_blade]

sainitygone,

The people hosting that event are definately not me ;) . We always host our event at Springfield.The event location can be found here; http://airsoftevents.com/events/field.php?event_num=57

I will have the event up on www.airsoftevents.com before the weekend so you guys can register.

[NickTick]

sainitygone....one more point then we can drop this in this threads subject line it says SPRINGFIELD, OH EVENT........ Maybe you should read things before you make a tool of yourself :)

[Shogun]

I might be able to make it.

[Darkstar]

I think sanitygone was confused because I told the people at the last Red Dragon event that I was planning to host my next event at Red Dragon on the 8th, but I had yet to post any info about it. Most likely he saw this thread and confused it for another RD event. Since Blade posted a thread about the interest of a game at Springfield the same date as my event, I decided not to post about my event since I don't want to start another b1tchfest 2006 over event conflicts again. IF I get enough local interest, then we might have an event at Red Dragon anyway, but since people want to piss on about event conflicts, it's not going to be made open on AO.

Darkstar out.

[Motis]

yea i bet i can get myself and maybe 3 to 5 other guys from 3D?

[Grimlock]

I'll be able to come. Hopefully, I'll have my AUG by then.:)

[kwjdklf]

I'll be there ready to shoot some people. :)

[Tanker671]

Ill be there except this time with better equipment and reinforcements
ha! :)

[strikers_blade]

Let's make this thread official then; There will be an event on July 8th at Springfield, OH :D


Starting Time: 1000
Fee: $15/player
Event style; combat mission, CQB, milsim

I will post the event on www.airsoftevents.com tonight so you guys can confirm your spot on the roster.

[Tanker671]

Are there teams? and if there are do we need to wear specific clothes?
:confused:

[Hillslam]

I'll be coming. Will try to see if Miner and/or Jaex are interested as well.

[NickTick]

Are there teams? and if there are do we need to wear specific clothes?



Tanker i dont want to over step my bounds here but usally there is different BDUS for each side. Like i said usally it is woddland for one side and desert for the other side. But to verify what i said just check the link Blade gave it will be on there. Along with all other event details.


Peace

[redneck11]

i should be going

[Noel911]

it sounds cool. i hope i can sell my gun and get an m14 before then otherwise il just use my regular gun.

[Noel911]

will we be able to use smoke bombs?

[Xenos 8]

if its bdu specific, im gonna need to buy clothes. unless all swat black is cool, that what ive got right now. ill check the link though.

[vbtb110]

On the smokes, I believe you can only use "cold smokes", so the type you are refering to, no.

[Phil]

wait, so is this event milsim only? or what?

Let's make this thread official then; There will be an event on July 8th at Springfield, OH Starting Time: 1000 Fee: $15/player Event style; combat mission, CQB, milsim

this confused me
:confused:

[Windex]

If I get my gun on tuesday I might be able to make it...

Thank ya.
Tarz

[Xenos 8]

oh, and i dont have a us military gun. i have the aps type 96 and a desert eagle, so if its milsim it could be a problem for me but not my guys.

[Dante]

Originally posted by Xenos 8
oh, and i dont have a us military gun. i have the aps type 96 and a desert eagle, so if its milsim it could be a problem for me but not my guys.
in milsim play you can use whatever gun you want. there are just more strict ammo limits.

[Phil]

so i assume it's STAR mags only?

[Armyguy]

Originally posted by strikers_blade
casual games

Meaning somewhat milsim, but very relaxed. Also all guns are aloud, all BDU's, but will be divided into teams according to color base, and hicaps would be aloud, but a restricted ammo limit to each player. (all this is based on previous games like this, so unless Blade's changed it on us, this is usually how these roll)

[Phil]

thanks army guy, i was nervous that i wouldn't get to play, because they don't make sg552 star mags

[Cullen Katarn]

What will be the FPS limit? Will it be the standard 500 or can it be a tad higher? Like 520...

[Cullen Katarn]

Xenos 8: if its bdu specific, im gonna need to buy clothes. unless all swat black is cool, that what ive got right now. ill check the link though.
You might want to invest in some woodland anyways...its probably going to be really hot and hot and black don't mix AND Springfield is mostly all woods actually (after the Farm) it is all woods...if you are going to wear black with a Type 96 you are going to stick out...just letting you know from my past experiences with my type 96 and Black BDU

[airsoftaddict]

Hey, is there an age limit? Nobody has said anything about one, and if there is, I don't want to get my hopes up for nothing.

[strikers_blade]

The event details will be posted this weekend; age, bdu colors, rules, etc. Sorry if it is taking so long but BF3 really dropped me down and I am just getting back to normal now.....
stay tuned for now....

[Decoy]

Originally posted by Cullen Katarn
What will be the FPS limit? Will it be the standard 500 or can it be a tad higher? Like 520...

I don't know about this casual event. But the Strikers use a rule that if you are not 18 or older, you cannot use a gun that fires over 400 FPS.

[Noel911]

Originally posted by Decoy
I don't know about this casual event. But the Strikers use a rule that if you are not 18 or older, you cannot use a gun that fires over 400 FPS.
thats weird. why 18 and under?

[strikers_blade]

Because 18 years old are usually the one with less experience (I said USUALLY) and since most accidents were involving 18 years old and younger, we decided it would be more appropriate. Ultimately, we would need to start giving classes but I am sure most of you would not attend so no choice, a decision had to be taken.

p.s. it is partly why standard AEGs can't use drum mags or M16 can't be 500fps gun with the owner promises to not engage at full auto.

[Noel911]

can someone put all the information on the first page like you are supposed to. its getting old searching through this forum and the one on ther other site for information that doesnt exist. like :
Age?
Fps?
info on location(phone #, address, ect.)?
:confused: thx

[strikers_blade]

Xenos, just stop asking question and wait. I said not even 10 posts behind that I would have everything posted this weekend. If you are not patient enough to leave me the weekend to do it, you are not patient enough to play :D

[Xenos 8]

i think im getting camo from sons of liberty but that all depends on wether or not he's comming. yeah i know blacks hot and sticks out, i usually have to wear cold under armour :p . ill check out the details when they come out. cant wait :D .

[Ookami]

I hope to be there. It'll be my first organized event, but I've got experience with...erm...possibly illegally playing in woods, and--even worse!--with paintball.

I love woodsball, but...airsoft just owns. No CO2 tank or hopper, no accidentally dumping your ammo out of your hopper or pods; just put in a mag and shoot. w00t.

[Xenos 8]

Originally posted by Ookami
I hope to be there. It'll be my first organized event, but I've got experience with...erm...possibly illegally playing in woods, and--even worse!--with paintball.

I love woodsball, but...airsoft just owns. No CO2 tank or hopper, no accidentally dumping your ammo out of your hopper or pods; just put in a mag and shoot. w00t.
no offense but i can tell ur a noob, no offense. ammo will spill, i have a co2 gun, and yeah i drop the cartriges sometimes, but yeah its way better than paintball, non of that crappy, stinky paint. i know youll have fun i remember my first official event, kicka$$ man. you do have like an AEG right, not like a spring pistol? lol

[Ookami]

Firepower CO2 pistol (modeled after a USP), and an XM8 AEG. Something wrong with the latter. It shoots, but my bro managed to break the stock so that you can pull it all the way out and something's amiss with the hop-up, too. >(

I admitted to being a n00b to organized events, but feel at least capable otherwise. :D Not good, capable.

[strikers_blade]

Xenos,

I can see you are a noob too :D
Ookami, don't worry about the event, organized or not, we will make you confortable with a nice welcome surprise :p

[Ookami]

A new AEG??? It'll be just like Christmas!!

Okay, so I know what you meant. :P Hopefully I can figure out what's up with the friggin' hop up on the XM8.

And I know I'm a n00b already! I admitted it in the first post! lol

[Xenos 8]

im a noob? how is that? ive done airsoft for like 2 years now, not master by far, but noob :eek: ? wait dont frgt there are like 5 xenos's. they all copied of me. there's xenos 7 (formerly 10), xenos 9, xenos 11, of course me, and some others that dont have accounts here. i guess i wanna prove im not a noob. ill try and do that next sat then. i can show you a clip of some noobs, but its painful to the eyes, lol.

[Ookami]

I have NO idea what just happened. :confused:

[Cullen Katarn]

Let's not get upset over a harmless comment... we shouldn't be pointing fingers at each other though regardless of what questions or things they say...this is one of the reasons why this awesome site was created! :cool:

[Xenos 8]

im not mad, just suprised, like crap. know what i mean?

[Cullen Katarn]

Yeah I can...but I have no room to call anyone a noob...I have learned a lot but I still have a ways to go...that why I like going to these event especially at Springfield because they are usually well organized and the people there are helpful;)

[Armyguy]

Originally posted by Xenos 8
im not mad, just suprised, like crap. know what i mean?

Yeah, thats the after shock of getting served..just kidding

Noob or no noob, were all here to play.

[Xenos 8]

i can tell you havent seen this airsoft video i saw. you can call then noobs. trust me, ill try and find it.

EDIT: here's the video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4583911371457335027&q=airsoft

[Ookami]

Whatever I said, I didn't mean to call anyone a n00b. :P If that's what's going on here.

Well anyone except myself.

EDIT: re-read posts and kinda jumped to me own conclusions. It wasn't my fault! zOMFG and stuff.

[Xenos 8]

no it wasnt u dude. dont worry no one is mad at anyone (i hope), least of all you. dont worry man.

[Ookami]

Now that we have established that I am sharp as a tack--

[airsoftaddict]

Holy Crap :eek: people posted a lot since last time I had access to a computer. I'm in the same situation as Ookami. I hope I can do alright. All I can do is try.

[vbtb110]

Lets keep it civil guys, were all here to play, right? No need to set things off on the wrong foot over a harmless comment.

Xenos, I think that your so called "Noob reputation" may be lessened by using spell check and proper grammar. ;)

[Son of Liberty]

Wow.....it seems like everyone is posting since I got back. Hmm, I'll check with Pop and see if some of us will be able to go. I'm not guaranteeing anything but I'd like to. It's good to be back. Yes, Xenos 8 I will sell you Woodland BDUs.

[Xenos 8]

cool, oh I never askeed is it digital or regular?
I know I could take more time but I usually just don't use capitalization or apostraphies, because you can usually tell what I mean. Unless its a word like I'll, and ill then i usually do. I don't because I am used to my microsoft works, and it does it for me. Whenever I post a new thread i do it right. I'll try and take my time int he future.

[Ookami]

I may have some older BDU pants. They're kinda big though and I think one has a tear on the knee. Fortunately, the knees have two layers on BDUs so it's not too big a deal. Heck, you could probably just take some OD duct tape over it and it'll be just fine. :D

[Xenos 8]

thanks dude, but Son of Liberty was gonna sell me these a long time ago. If he can't come can you let me borrow them maybe. I'd give you some money, thats if he can't come.

[Ookami]

Well, I'll warn you. I fit 34-36 size waists on my pants, and these BDUs leave me with plenty of room to spare. They do fit with a good solid belt (mine's leather with a double buckle) and if you pull the tabs on the side tight. However, it folds up in various places around the waist when you have it sinched up like that. Know what I mean? lol

If nothing else, they work well for back-up pants if for some reason you can't get your hands on anything else. It never hurts to bring extra clothes to paintball or airsoft, anyway. The worst thing that could happen would be that you need to make a hasty dressing or bandage out of them and you have to use some old BDUs to do the job. :-/

I'll bring 'em. I might even go looking for some more at the thrift store at the local base (I've got access, I'm a dependant stil).

[Windex]

Originally posted by Xenos 8
i can tell you havent seen this airsoft video i saw. you can call then noobs. trust me, ill try and find it.

EDIT: here's the video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4583911371457335027&q=airsoft


Dang man, little kids with music they shouldn't be listening to, words they shouldn't be saying, and guys that they shouldn't have are gettin pwned!! I hope their parents see that vid.

[Xenos 8]

i think ill be able to wear the pants. i fir like hmm i think im wearin 34 with a belt, but i always wear the belt. i think they'll do as back up pants.
arent those kids sofa king we todd ed. :D . oh by the way it has a thread in general forums i think.

[monkey_slap]

looks pretty good. just got home from europe yesterday some some chillin type play would be pretty fun

[Son of Liberty]

They're just plain woodland. The pants are Navy issue so they aren't the cheap knock off kind. And they're a 34-36 size with a belt they're great. They also have the elastic to tighten. But now to get back on topic. Blade, would you like some scenario ideas to make this alittle more Milsim-ish (If thats a word). But have it still laid back, like the Fran-Bar events. Just give me a jingle if you want an idea. But the Spartans should number uhh lets say 4 at the least 6 at the most.

[Xenos 8]

okay cool, regular is fine. if you look at kurt klaus new event we could do what he plans to:
like have squads and such, just read what he wrote.

[Cullen Katarn]

Hey you guys I know you are all excited... but this thread is not for personal conversations...It's just that when people check out this thread they don't want to keep looking for the game info...I know that the main stuff will be posted in the beginning, but the thread is mainly about the actual event...that's what private messaging is for!!! not to be an @$$ :cool:

[strikers_blade]

After having problems with my server, the event is finally up; http://airsoftevents.com/events/event_story.php?event_num=61

I will start answering all questions and give all details within the hours. For now, we can say few things;

- Field fee is $15/player.
- 13 years old and older.
- BDU is required BUT do not have to be a specific color.
- Team will be formed on the spot (depending on who shows up)
- We will play many CQB battles so guns need to be lower than 400FPS
- 400FPS+ weapons reserved for 18 years old and higher.
- No Semi automatic weapons above 450FPS

More details will be posted on www.airsoftevents.com shortly.

p.s. few links and options are not fixed yet but you should not have any problem to at least register.

[NickTick]

Blade question for you. Once we have registered it ask us to pre pay is this a pre pay event or can i pay at the event. Thanx


Peace

[strikers_blade]

You pay at the gate. The "prepay" issue is part of my BF3 coding, which will be removed with few other things suh as "status" and "free Mre" options :D

[Xenos 8]

2 things, I think you meant:
"no semi automatic weapons ABOVE 450 FPS"
and I feel stupid but I'm not exactly sure how to register, never gone to a Springfield event before :confused: . Thanks

[NickTick]

Xenos PM sent

[strikers_blade]

Xenos,

Thanks for the "ABOVE" issue. I fixed it already :D

For registration, here it goes;
http://airsoftevents.com/events/event_signup.php?event_num=61

[Xenos 8]

Thanks, I have to talk to my friend to make sure he can give me a ride. He usually says he can w/o ever asking his parents.

[monkey_slap]

blade, ive attended a few of your games in the past, cold toes for one. do i need another signed waiver, or am i in the books?

[Noel911]

Originally posted by Xenos 8
i think ill be able to wear the pants. i fir like hmm i think im wearin 34 with a belt, but i always wear the belt. i think they'll do as back up pants.
arent those kids sofa king we todd ed. :D . oh by the way it has a thread in general forums i think.
the thread is in off topic forums.

[Ookami]

Being a n00b...can I get a location on this place? THe website seems to be lacking in this regard. Or else, I'm having problems with my comp.

[BlackHawk97]

4624 Dayton Springfield RD
Springfield OH 45502

[Ookami]

And a fine thank you, Blackhawk. :)

[RedStorm86]

some of the 45th SOG should be out there. 2-6 of us depending on who has to work or not.

[strikers_blade]

ookami,

you can find more details on the location here;
http://airsoftevents.com/events/field.php?event_num=61

[Ookami]

I tried that link and clicked location using both Firefox and IE. Neither one displayed anything.

[Xenos 8]

Originally posted by Xenos 11
the thread is in off topic forums.
Dude it got moved, like 3 days ago, becuase its about airsoft. It may have been deleted, because there is talk about videos like that being banned, because it portrays airsofting in a bad light. Just check the announcements forum. Pretty sure i can go but i dunno, not sure who's driving.

[SpecialOp7]

i might be able to come

[Noel911]

i just registered. now i go into prep mode lol i cant wait. i checked the weather and saturday looks great not to hot but hot enough here http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/wxdetail/43085?dayNum=4

[Greg]

well, i should be there. unless something comes up or my ride cancels

[Xenos 8]

Originally posted by Xenos 11
i just registered. now i go into prep mode lol i cant wait. i checked the weather and saturday looks great not to hot but hot enough here http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/wxdetail/43085?dayNum=4
dude, because of you we might not be able to go. You should't have registered yet. Its pending on Jasper's parents and maybe Grayson's dad. But things look glum.

[Armyguy]

Xenos 8, not to be a d*** head or anything, but you seriosuly need to keep this aobut the event, not about pants or personal issues and plans, and there have been several people address this to you, but you need to keep it all on PM's and not on here. Im not attacking you or anything, Im jsut getting a little fed up with people goin off topic.
and I probably should have sent this in a PM, but I did not so I appoligize for being a hipocrit

Blade, PM about the event sent.

[Xenos 8]

sorry about that. Anyways we can go Jasper is givin us a ride, so I am registering now.

[monkey_slap]

blade, a few questions

if we have turned in a waiver before, do we need to turn in another one?

and will you have some of your combat depot sales on sight? im in need of some bbs.

[strikers_blade]

All players who gave a waiver in 2006 DO NOT need to give a new one.

And yes, I will have some Combatdepot goodies with me :)

[Son of Liberty]

Originally posted by strikers_blade
And yes, I will have some Combatdepot goodies with me :)

Mmmm, I can only imagine :rolleyes: ....... How will the teams be split up? BDU requirements? Because on Airsoft Events under the rules section it doesn't say what BDUs are for what side and the ammo limits etc. If I could have those answered please :)

[strikers_blade]

son of liberty, read few posts above;

- BDU is required BUT do not have to be a specific color.
- Team will be formed on the spot (depending on who shows up)

There are no ammo restrictions.

[Son of Liberty]

My bad, I missed those. Alrighty, no ammo restrictions...pray and sprayers unite.

[slicknickpro]

Alright, I'm signed up and 2 of my fellow teammates are comming one being motis. Without ammo restrictions ill get to test out my 2 550 round hi caps that came with my ak.

[Armyguy]

Blade did you ever recieve my PM?

[airsoftaddict]

OK, maybe I'm just a friggin moron, but could someone tell me how to get a waiver? :confused: I feel stupid... I'm getting too used to that feeling. :(

[BlackHawk97]

http://airsoftevents.com/events/waiver.php?event_num=61

[Xenos 8]

I finally remembered to ask:
What should we do for food? Are there fast food places nearby or should I bring stuff to eat?
Water, too, should I fill my canteen prior or is there a water fountain?
Thanks

[strikers_blade]

Combatdepot will have some Mres for sale (6.50$/each) with a choice of 6 menus.
you need to bring your own water.

The closest restaurant is about 5 miles away (McDonald).

[NickTick]

Water, too, should I fill my canteen prior or is there a water fountain?

Xenos saturday is supposed to be 87 degrees and hotter. I suggest bringing more then just one canteen of water. Go to any store and buy some water to bring with you. Keeping hydrated is the most important thing about saturday. We are all there to have fun and be safe. So bring lots of water or gatorade. If you are straped for cash you can buy a gallon of water for around a buck at Wal Mart and UDF. Also Wal Mart sells 32 oz. gatorage for 84 cents a bottle. So pick up a few. And that goes for everyone else also. Stay hydrated.



Peace

[Xenos 8]

ok, well probably will go to a gas station, we have a total of like 6 canteens for the 4 of us, but we will bring water and gatorade most likely. I noticed in the waiver minimum age is 16, but I thought there wasn't one, or I think I remeber hearing 14 somewhere.

[Kurt Klaus]

Striker posted up a new link to the 13 year old waiver in his website... would be much better if I got that sooner since I have the original signed.

BTW does that mean ALL original waiver prior to this will be null due to the fact that age change nulls original documents? I am not saying that now everyone whos sue happy can find a loop hole BUT... does it not cause a liability concern in the event of something bad just so happens to occur?

I am no legal expert but I have seen alot of law suits over this sort of thing where one persons document was different to another another and can cause a void just because of one word.

Striker, if you have insurance over this I would suggest contacting them and get a thumbs up to see if the forms will not be null (if you havent already).

To give an example that MIGHT go bad (this is a longshot but heck at the moment cant think of anything else):
Lets say person A is 16 and has the original waiver. Person B is 13 and has the new waiver. A tragic thing occurs in which person A is injured accidentally (not by gross neglegence stated in waiver therfore null) by person B. Person A parents, due to being a minor, is troubled and wants compensation, even though knowing they signed a waiver prior. However they want to see all players waivers (which can be granted) or so happen to find out that there was a waiver change (like coming to AO) and find that persons B waiver states the age of 13 and notice that there sons waiver speciffically states the age of 16 for participation.

Now of course, as you all know there are those people who like to be definition picky. You can interpret it as the participation age for a particular person OR you can interpret it as the participation age as a whole for the event (which I can see it as, and maybe person A's parents). A's parents go and try to sue and get a lawyer. Lawyer compares the documents (copy or orignal) and notice the the age difference as well and gets a judge or any official to consider it null. Parents can sue now which is BAD! for anybody as it can cause a ripple effect with everything else assocciated with the event.

You can get the picture at what I am getting at.

My best bet is to have everyone sign a new waiver as there was a change is the specific wording of the document. You can try proving me wrong but like I said there are those kind of people who want to be sue happy and want to find loopholes if something goes wrong and this can be considered a loohole and all I am trying to do is give a point/address a particular thing that confuses me. And also considering airsoft is frowned upon by much of the general public (im speaking of the public which is usually ill informed and simply dont gve a rats *** over this kind of thing)... yeh take the safe route. Legal documents are tricky and touchy things and can be good some times but bad and annoying the most of the time.

EDIT - Please note that I did see that it says "If players already delivered a 2006 Strikers event within the past 2006 events do not need to resign a new waiver." Since I do not have confirmation from Striker atm that the waivers are alright I decided to address this issue.

Now I am also not saying that anybody that attends will do this as we are all a tight nit community but its the parents of minors that can cause issues. The minors can say all they want and plead not to sue or get invloved but... as parent they are the legally responsible for actions from and/or directed to there child and have the final word.

Please dont attack me again... I am already beat up from the last time I started something like this ; ;

[strikers_blade]

Kurt,

I think you are bringing a very valid point and I will definately address the issue. If you are correct, that mean we have options;

1. Get new waivers at every event.
2. Do not change age limits at all.

For now, we will keep the rules as they are but will have to adjust the waiver for future events. If players below 18yrs did not get the waiver notarized yet, please take the new waiver version.

[Kurt Klaus]

Deleated by me... made no sense where it was placed.

[strikers_blade]

well, if someone give his waiver in January and it says 16 years old, he will have the same waiver when an event in June will have waiver saying 13 years old. So it can't work.....

[Xenos 8]

So are you saying that you must be 16, I can't tell. Are we sticking with 16, for whatever reasons or is it going to be 13? I'm curoius, becuase it determines wether or not my guys and I can go.

[airsoftaddict]

Same Here.

[Kurt Klaus]

*Some information from last deleted post has been added here for clarification*

The best option and is safe is having everyone sign this new waiver for this event. It wont become null if every one who comes to this event brings the new one.

Striker if you so happen to have an event in the future that the age limit is 16 it should be covered. You do not need a new waiver for every event. If you do have concerns or worried, making a waiver for every event is definitly a safe route. The wording may need to be changed just to include the specific event and not universal and all documents should be saved just incase something legal does come up. The only reason I brought this all up is that from what I have heard and seen (just a reminder I am still new to airsoft) this is like the first time you had a form wording change and age limit change at the same time.

Adding a set age limit within the form itself can make things a little messy. All other liability forms I have seen do not have set age limits for events located within the waiver (except if your under the age of 18 part but that is NEEDED). The organizers/owners of the fields and events set the age limit rules for that particular event and not within the waiver itself, which is still fine and is covered. Now if someone happens to slip by breaking the age limit rule (which can happen with this waiver and the old one just as easily) it can be considered gross negligence and/or reckless misconduct located in paragraph 4 of your form therefore legal action can be taken against that player breaking the rules.

Striker, if I scared you in anyway I am sorry. I also dont mean to tell you what to do as there are many ways to go around this. I just gave the most simpliest and safest ways.

[Noel911]

Originally posted by strikers_blade
And yes, I will have some Combatdepot goodies with me :)
will the prices be the same as the internet? cause i need bb's and i wana know how much $ to bring.

[strikers_blade]

Why the prices would change??? My prices are always the same, no matter where I go :p

ps. Don't forget to add taxes.

[Noel911]

can you link the new waiver. i cant find it.

[strikers_blade]

Originally posted by BlackHawk97
http://airsoftevents.com/events/waiver.php?event_num=61

The waiver is accessible from all event pages. Just look in the left menu and you will see the tab for it.

[Noel911]

oh sorry didnt realize it was the new 1.

[NickTick]

oh god help us all the xenos are multiplying.

[Xenos 8]

Originally posted by NickTick
oh god help us all the xenos are multiplying.
lol, I was the original one. I invented the name ages ago, around the time of Halo CE. Then 9 and 10 copied me, but 10 lost his account and became 7. 11 is one who doesn't have live, but he copied me too.
on topic: are you sure its the new one, it says minimum age 16 at the bottom.

[Kurt Klaus]

Good catch there. That may definatly be a concern to be addressed immediatly.

[strikers_blade]

darn it!!!!
I will fix it within 10 seconds.... :mad:

sorry :D

[underthehill09]

LOL wow i think i have to go fill out a new one.
Oh another question, on airsoft events it says we need the waiver notarized, but on the waiver it says somthing about it only being needed if a parent is not present. Do they mean to sign the waiver? Or do they mean present at the time of the event?


So confusing :(

[Kurt Klaus]

Deleted... Read Decoys post. My info was off or confused with something else.

EDIT: Poor striker... everyone give him a hand shake and a big thank you when you go to this event. He deserves it all for all this trouble he has to go through. :)

[strikers_blade]

Kurt,

LOL, don't worry for me, it's just a flaw that I never saw before so I am just happy you saw it before an accident happened lol.

[Decoy]

Originally posted by Kurt Klaus
Notary public is a process entirly different than getting it signed by a gaurdian and is required as well.

BOTH the Notary Public and Parental Consent Signature (if parent not present) is needed to participate. If a parent/gaurdian is present, parental signature is not required due to the fact verbal consent can be given and/or parent can take full responsibility of participants actions, however you still need notary public.

Just to clear this up incase there is confusion...
If your parents/legal guardian won't be there to sign infront of Blade, a Notary (a government certified witness) must sign AS WELL as your parents.

If your parents/legal guardian will be there, they must sign infront of Blade (or THEY present a waiver with their signiture, signifying they signed themselves) and NO notary is required.

Any questions? ;)

[strikers_blade]

Thank you Decoy.

[underthehill09]

Oh, ok thankyou for clearing that up. Ill probably go and get that done today.

[Son of Liberty]

....good...god....I think my IQ got higher from reading all of that. Whew..can't wait for Saturday.

[Noel911]

Originally posted by Decoy
If your parents/legal guardian will be there, they must sign infront of Blade (or THEY present a waiver with their signiture, signifying they signed themselves) and NO notary is required.
How would they do this? Or will there be a notary there, I think I heard there will be.

[Kurt Klaus]

I wasnt going insane!

Public Notary in the US is a person appointed by state government to serve the public as an impartial witness and to authenticate legal documents. Now I was under the impression that Striker was using notaries to authenticate/legalize his waiver not as a witness. This impression was brought on due to the fact that notaries mainly deal with private transactions and events and its authentication of legal documents. And then there is this fiasco with the typos within the waiver.

I thought Strikers game was one of those type of private events and in which I thought a public notary is required for authentication whether or not a gaurdian will be present (you can see a little bit of that in Decoys post/quote since I deleted the mian body of my earlier thread). Now after the posts by Blackhawk and Decoy I went to made sure I wasnt crazy and happen to find out what role Striker was using notaries for.

Now heres my little question/comment. Striker why the notaries? I know Blackhawk kinda answered my question but many public fields (such as paintball fields) do not require such and I also know you have been doing this for a VERY long time. I mean I can understand the use of them in a hobby such as this and if you want the use of them I honor the fact you are taking the safe route. However doesnt that kind of give off a vibe that airsoft players are not trust worthy? :rolleyes:

EDIT - Just remember I will be new to your field and I like to get as much information as possible and feed that info to my father. He wants to know what I am getting into and being a caring father as he is I do not blame him or anyone else regarding this issue.

I would also like to appologize for the much confusion I may have caused by my interpretations.

[Xenos 7]

oh god help us all the xenos are multiplying.

theres more were that came from. :D

[monkey_slap]

blade, do the waivers really need to be notarized by the notary public for a low profile event?

[strikers_blade]

Kurt and Monkey_slap,

To answer both of you;

1. Yes, the waiver have to be sign as soon as a Strikers host the event. small, medium or big event, an accident can always happen and the waiver is the only thing on our side.

2. All airsoft players are trustworthy until an accident happen. If it would have to happen and we would find out the signature was a fake, we could be in deep trouble. Does a notary will avoid lawsuit or troubles? not really but again, there is not much we can do to protect our a$$ again those who think the organizer is always at fault.

[airsoftaddict]

Those who think that the organizer is always at fault are stupid. So anyway, where the heck do I find a Notory, anyway?

Dave / airsoftaddict

[Xenos 8]

Originally posted by airsoftaddict
Those who think that the organizer is always at fault are stupid. So anyway, where the heck do I find a Notory, anyway?

Dave / airsoftaddict
This is what I need to know. ^

Xenos 11 meant that his parents aren't comming. The group of us 4 is car pooling, so do you see the problem. Only one will have his mom/dad there. The other 3 of us won't, hence the problem.

[strikers_blade]

I am a bit too old for notarizing waiver but I do think banks, drug store and post office can notorize your waiver.

[Kurt Klaus]

Banks should have at least one notary public available at all times when open. You should be able to find one at any bank no problem.

[Xenos 8]

Great thanks, I'll make sure my friends don't sign theirs yet, well their parents anyways. Thanks again, can't wait till Sat.

[monkey_slap]

if you can go to the bank you or your family uses because otherwise i beleive there is a fee involved

[Armyguy]

So, the wavier from BF3 is still valid correct? Or do we need the new one?

[NickTick]

All banks have a notary offical. But if you have to have an account at that bank for there not to be a fee. Only the main branches of post offices have a notary offical. And by main branches i mean the county seats (i.e. Hamilton county The county seat is Cincinnati thats is were the main branch of the post office is at also Clermont county the county seat is Batavia that is were there main branch of the post office is at.)
Also you can get anything notorized at a Fed Ex/Kinkos store or a UPS Store many of them have Notary officals.I hope that helped.

Peace

[airsoftaddict]

Alright guys, thanks. :cool:

[Kurt Klaus]

Armyguy,

In light of how much has been going on with the discussion with the new waiver, the best bet is is for everyone that is to participate in the 8th event is to get a new waiver signed.

[Xenos 8]

Just got mine signed and notoryed ( what's the past tense? :confused: ) It didn't take long for the actually signing, but someone before us took a while. I can now officially play. Oh, my friend whose parents are driving, they can just sign it there right, like in front of you? I mean he doesn't have to get it notorized, or does he?

[Decoy]

If whoever is driving is the parent of one the players, that parent can sign their child's waiver without it being notarized.

[monkey_slap]

Originally posted by Xenos 8
Just got mine signed and notoryed ( what's the past tense? :confused: ) It didn't take long for the actually signing, but someone before us took a while. I can now officially play. Oh, my friend whose parents are driving, they can just sign it there right, like in front of you? I mean he doesn't have to get it notorized, or does he?

it's notarized

the friend whose parents are driving does not need a notarized waiver

[Xenos 8]

Thanks, oh duh notarized, got close on my 2nd try lol. So just 2 more of my guys need to have it notarized.

[strikers_blade]

For those not used to Strikers event (or if I forgot to mention it), the event will go on from 10am to 5-6pm......

[Ookami]

I know this is last minute but...

I CAN'T MAKE IT TOMORROW!! *cries*

I gotta go into work. :(

[snipe]

Little Foot and I will be there... no gurantees on time... but around 12. If someone is bringin a charger please tell me cause his battery is dead.